Penghinaan Terhadap Agama Hindu Oleh Firdaus Wong dan Ahmad Iqram

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Satu Analisa : Modus Operandi Firdaus Wong dan
Bukti -Bukti atau Maklumat Terperinci Daripada Post Firdaus Wong Wai Hung (Official) Yang Dikenal Pasti Menghina Agama Hindu.

Pendahuluan

Firdaus Wong Wai Hung, Cina mualaf (convert) merupakan anak murid Zakir. Mula menulis dalam fb, Firdaus Wong Wai Hung Official diurus oleh team R&D  Multiracial Reverted Muslims (MRM) dan adminnya.

Sumber informasi utama Firdaus Wong daripada Ahmad Iqram Mohd Noor, fb  dan bukunya.

Beroperasi agak lama tanpa mencampuri agama lain.

Paparan fb Firdaus mengenai agama Hindu bermula sejak tahun 2017 sehingga kini, ( kemungkinan pengaruh Zakir Naik) beberapa artikel diteliti untuk rujukan dan penilaian. Firdaus juga ada mengeluarkan sebuah video mengenai agama Hindu pada awal tahun 2017. Didapati Firdaus melakukan pelbagai kesalahan yang merupakan pembohongan atau fitnah terhadap agama Hindu dalam paparan fbnya. (Telah dinasihati, tetapi Firdaus tidak mengendahkannya)

A.  Alasan Firdaus menulis mengenai agama Hindu sebagai perbandingan agama.

1. Untuk memperkenalkan agama Hindu kepada orang Muslim.

a. Untuk lebih memahami agama lain.(9.1-2.)

b. Mula-mula tulis artikel neutral, tetapi kemudian cuba buktikan agama Hindu hari ini salah (sudah syirik) (2.2.)

2. Untuk menjawab pandangan orang bukan Islam ,PN Oak (3.1. ,7.1.) tentang Agama Islam dan pencerahan kepada semua. (9.2.) (tiada masalah)

B.  Penulisan fb Firdaus Melanggar Etika Perbandingan Agama.

1. Etika perbandingan agama melarang membuat tafsiran mengenai agama lain berdasarkan agama sendiri. (banyak bukti)

2. Sumber rujukan yang tidak sahih, sekunder atau bukan primer (versi Sanskrit) telah digunakan oleh posting fb Firdaus. (7.3.). Mendakwa (claim) sumber rujukan, nota kakinya sahih, akademik, ilmiah, rasional dan lengkap. (9.1.)

3. Firdaus tiada kredibiliti untuk tafsir agama Hindu tetapi membuat tafsiran sendiri. Contoh tafsiran perkataan ‘agama ‘ yang sangat luar biasa dipetik daripada sumber bodoh Ahmad Iqram (5.3.)

4. Membuat perbandingan agama di media sosial. Tidak boleh dibuat perbandingan agama di kalangan umum.  Hanya secara tertutup elak konflik.

C. Kaedah/Modus Operandi Firdaus.

1. Cari persamaan antara agama melalui kitab Hindu dan kitabnya.

a. Agama Islam tertua (7.1.)(...Ahmad Iqram) ,bermula sejak Adam, beri gambaran semua agama asal daripada Islam. (tiada masalah kalau berdasarkan kitab sendiri, tetapi Kitab Hindu menolak )

b. Menyeru semua orang, semoga kembali kepada umat yang satu. (3.6.)

2. Cuba buktikan agama Hindu hari ini telah menyimpang daripada ajaran sebenar.

a. Klaim pada asalnya Veda, Upanishad seperti Islam.

b. Zaman Puranik, menyimpang, syirik.(dosa paling besar)

3. Gambaran tanggungjawab Muslim untuk betulkannya.

D. Firdaus Tidak Bertanggungjawab Terhadap Post Yang Dibuat.

1. Tidak menjawab sebarang persoalan yang dikemukakan.(Dalam fb post Sivasiddhi Speaks)

2. Pandangan atau komen yang bertentangan dengan pendapatnya di label sebagai ekstrimis Hindu yang menentang agamanya.(6.1.)

3. Cuba mendapatkan simpati daripada netizen seagamanya untuk menyokongnya dan menghasut untuk menyokong dengannya membuat laporan polis (8.1.). (Berbahaya jika di salah tafsir seperti golongan Isis, Boko Haram, Wahabi, dll kumpulan terrorist.)

E.  Kesan Paparan Fb Firdaus .

1.Agama Hindu dihina. (banyak bukti)

2.Menimbulkan rasa resah dalam kalangan penganut Hindu dan Islam.

a. Komen - komen dalam page Firdaus Wong Wai Hung Official, menunjukkan rasa marah, benci dll.

b. Terdapat individu yang mengalami tekanan, terganggu…,dipermainkan… dll

c. Orang Muslim sendiri rasa Firdaus Wong menghina atau buat serangan agama, diakui sendiri oleh Firdaus Wong. (9.1.)

3.Menggugat keharmonian masyarakat. Menghina sesama sendiri dalam fb Firdaus Wong.

4.Melanggar Perlembagaan Negara.

a. Perbandingan agama secara terbuka.

b. Menghina agama.

F.  Senarai Penghinaan-Penghinaan  Firdaus Wong dan MRM, Admin FWWHO.

1. Penghinaan Pertama.
Petik ayat -ayat dari kitab Hindu di luar konteks (out of context), disalahtafsir dan dimanipulasi berdasarkan kefahaman sendiri.(1.4-5., 2.2., 3.5., 4.2.)

a.  Contoh Yajur Veda 40.9, mereka masuk kegelapan  sembah asambhuti, elemen alam “(angin, air, api) .”...mereka masuk kegelapan lebih dalam sembah sambhuti, benda dicipta… gambar,kerusi,,...patung” (1.4.), (video ... tohmahan Zakir, ayat 40.10 dan 40.11 tidak dibaca bersama)

b. Soma disebut minuman memabukkan.(4.2.)

c. dll

2.  Penghinaan Kedua.
Saudara Firdaus mentafsir ikut pemahaman agama sendiri.

a. Ada menyebut bahawa ayat - ayat dari Veda, Upanishad melarang sembahyang Tuhan dalam bentuk murthy (patung berhala /idol).(1.4., 3.4.,  3.5., 7.5.)

b. Menyatakan bahawa Kitab Veda dan Upanishad  ada menyebut bahawa Tuhan “tidak boleh dipatungkan, tidak boleh diwajahkan”(1.4.)

c. Klaim bahawa Purana menganjur (arahan) membuat patung berhala. (1.5.)

3.  Penghinaan Ketiga
Firdaus  mengandaikan/menggambarkan bahawa orang Hindu sembah Patung/Batu.(dll).

a. Sembah lain daripada Tuhan.(1.5.)

b. pembinaan patung berasal dari Yunani. (1.4.)

c. penyembahan patung, berhala bermula dari zaman puranik. (1.5.)

d. berhala ialah semangat setempat. (7.4.)

4.  Penghinaan ke 4

Menghina Shiva.
a. Shiva Lingam dikatakan sebagai alat sulit manusia.(3.2., 7.2.),claimnya bukan dia( Firdaus) yang cipta idea itu.  (7.3.)

b. Firdaus cuba kaitkan Trisula Shiva dengan simbol setan (red devil) dalam bentuk persoalan. (3.2., 7.2.)

c. penyembahan Siva Lingam bermula 1 SM. (3.3., 7.4.)

d. penyembahan Tuhan dalam bentuk Lingam kepercayaan baharu, tiada dalam Sruthi (Veda, Upanishad) (3.3., 7.3.)

5. Penghinaan ke 5
Paparan fb Firdaus ada menyebut agama Brahma.Tiada agama Brahma dalam agama Hindu. (1.1., 1.3.)

6. Penghinaan ke 6
Firdaus berkata ada amalan kasta dalam agama Hindu. Amalan kasta tidak pernah wujud dalam agama Hindu.(1.3.)

7. Penghinaan ke 7

Firdaus melampaui batas,campur tangan dalam akidah agama Hindu dengan tafsiran sendiri.

Firdaus tiada kredibiliti untuk menterjemah, mentafsir atau menghurai kitab Hindu. Firdaus mencampuri hal ehwal agama Hindu.

a. salah tafsir konsep monotheism. Amalan monoteism memang asas agama Hindu, penjelmaan Tuhan dalam pelbagai bentuk rupa dilihat / disalahtafsir sebagai politeism.

b. Veda, Upanishad bersifat monotheism,gambarkan sebagai selari dengan Islam, Veda telah ditokoh tambah. ((1.6., 1.7)

c. gambarkan sandaran Purana ialah amalan Hindu hari ini, bersifat polytheism,  salah, syirik (2.2.)

d. Brahman telah disekutukan dengan sembahan dewa -dewi (2.3.)*(worst crime in Islam…), menduakan Tuhan dengan sembahan lain,  khayalan (meditasi)  dan patung. (2.5.)

e. Meditasi digambarkan sebagai khayalan. (2.5., 3.4., 7.4., 7.5.)

8. Penghinaan ke 8

Firdaus  memaparkan upacara Thaipusam  sebagai upacara menyeksa diri untuk menebus dosa.

a. upacara menyeksa diri (5.1.)

b. upacara menebus dosa (5.2.)

c. ritual elemen sedih, harapkan pengampunan (5.3.)

d. melibatkan masyarakat Hindu Tamil (5.1.)

9. Penghinaan ke 9

Firdaus menggunakan sumber yang tidak sahih atau sumber sekunder untuk menghuraikan agama Hindu.

a. tiada sumber primer versi Sanskrit yang asal.

b. sumber ‘ Swami ‘ Balendu seorang atheist (7.3.)

c.  Ahmad Iqram M. N., buku kontroversi. (3.6., 7.6.) Prof. Uthaya Naidu, The Bible of Aryan Invasions, Sudrastan Books, Jabalpur 1999. Diharamkan Oleh kerajaan

India,  pada 2006. (nota kaki… 1.2., 1.8)

10.Penghinaan ke 10

Firdaus tidak bertanggungjawab.
a. tidak menjawab sebarang pertanyaan atau persoalan.

b. cuba /akan melabelkan mana - mana orang yang komen negatif terhadap post fbnya sebagai ekstrimis agama Hindu dan cuba kaitkan dengan negara luar. (6.1.)(MHDM, myitimes, Hindraf dll.

c. mendakwa (claim)  dapat maklumat mengenai ekstrimis Hindu di Malaysia daripada pakar keselamatan bukan Muslim.  (6.1.)

d. cuba menagih simpati daripada netizen seagamanya dan menghasut mereka untuk menyokongnya.

G. Firdaus Wong Tidak Professional.

Telah banyak kali Firdaus cuba dinasihati, dijelaskan, diberi penerangan dan sebagainya mengenai kesalahan-kesalahannya mengenai agama Hindu dalam postingnya, melalui  komen-komen di fb Firdaus, melalui posting fb di page lain (Sivasiddhi Speaks) dll. Tetapi Firdaus Wong masih mengulangi posting begini dari masa ke masa.(rujuk Senarai Post Sivasiddhi Speaks)

H.  Tindakan.

Firdaus perlu bertanggungjawab kepada segala kesalahan dan fitnah ke atas agama Hindu. Sikap Firdaus  bercanggah dengan agama ajaran Islam . (Q. 6.108, Q. 17.36)

Menuntut supaya Firdaus Wong ,

1. Meminta maaf secara terbuka melalui posting fb.

2. Menarik balik semua postingnya mengenai agama Hindu.

3. Tidak membuat sebarang posting mengenai agama Hindu pada masa hadapan.

4. Kalau  Firdaus Wong tidak bersalah,  maka perlu dituntut supaya saudara Firdaus menjawab semua soalan -soalan  mengenai agama Hindu seperti yang dinyatakan dalam posting beliau.

Pihak kami boleh sediakan siaran langsung secara tertutup. Keadaan ini akan memberi peluang untuk membuktikan kebenaran,integriti,kredibiliti dan maruah beliau.

ATAU

5. Tindakan undang undang perlu  diambil ke atas Firdaus Wong, team MRM dan  admin FWWHO.

Kesimpulan.

Firdaus Wong Wai Hung, ahli- ahli R & D Team Multiracial Reverted Muslims (MRM) dan ahli - ahli Admin Firdaus Wong Wai Hung (Official) perlu meminta maaf kepada umat Hindu dan bertaubat.

Pihak - pihak  yang bertanggungjawab  menjaga kesucian dan imej agama Islam perlu mendidik  Firdaus Wong Wai Hung, ahli- ahli R & D Team Multiracial Reverted Muslims (MRM) dan ahli - ahli Admin Firdaus Wong Wai Hung (Official) cara pendakwahan Islam yang mulia.

Memelihara keamanan dan keharmonian negara adalah tanggungjawab setiap rakyat Malaysia.

Hubungan etnik yang harmoni ialah kunci survival Malaysia. Sikap prejudis seseorang tidak menjadi masalah sekiranya ia tidak diluahkan secara terbuka, tetapi apabila ia diluahkan kepada umum,ia menjadi sikap stereotaip yang boleh membawa masalah yang mengancam keharmonian masyarakat majmuk. (Prof.  Shamsul Amri, Modul Hubungan Entik,Upena 2007)

Sekian.
Om Namah Shivaya
Sri Sivasiddhi.
Sivasiddhi Spiritual Foundation
Malaysia

24 Julai 2018

Petunjuk  rujukan. (Link docs. google) 

Contoh (2.2.), Nombor senarai post 2. Nombor muka surat post berkenaan 2.

Senarai Post FWWHO Yang Dijadikan Rujukan.

1.  Perkembangan Agama India 

     18 July 2017

https://m.facebook.com/FirdausWongMRM/photos/a.285726318205028.60744.285669801544013/1248810015229982/?type=3

Original writer.  Ahmad Iqram Mohd Noor  (13/7/17)

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1501076509949771&id=100001423089049

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DLiAWnxBzgBqLDqCXWpWV055R3gOVYqsC5cp3xUIpJI/edit?usp=drivesdk

2.  Benarkah Tidak  Ada Tauhid Rububiyah Bagi Bukan Muslim? 

     21 July 2017

Original writer.  Ahmad Iqram.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1509206752470080&id=100001423089049

https://docs.google.com/document/d/151umY0CggyTnLSk6tIe1yjLrG6iX6AsUP3chlaSKxwE/edit?usp=drivesdk

3.  Siri Menjawap Hindu #1 

      2 August 2017

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1263065987137718&id=285669801544013

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D8DvsqFvnC_59QaPxO3qXy0Re4CCNmATNiRnsnIl5og/edit?usp=drivesdk

4.  Respon Kepada ‘Better Beer Festival ‘: Dari Perspektif Agama Di Malaysia. 

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1303095246468125&id=285669801544013

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SC0QHmWCIj0Y4E_32eK-Lf1NmwYqZ4DSl3fnUq8PQZQ/edit?usp=drivesdk

5.  [Menyeksa Diri Untuk Mendekatkan Dengan Tuhan: Ia Anjuran Agama?]

     5 October 2017

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1316550585122591&id=285669801544013

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iupS1p7dHnBscC_01PuWqV56q_irDTPbasUlN3_8qsU/edit?usp=drivesdk

6.  [Pakar Keselamatan Mengesahkan Wujudnya Ekstrimis Hindu Di Malaysia]

     6 January 2018

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1405029426274706&id=285669801544013

https://docs.google.com/document/d/12ryGDW1T9lO3U4lYI-6r-6A7eWxJdn7e6ZKhAvXTumI/edit?usp=drivesdk

7.  [Jawapan Kepada Tuduhan Kononnya Kaabah Adalah Kuil Siva ‘Kaabalishwaran’ & 

     Dalamnya Ada Siva Lingam]

     January 2018

Link asal post tidak dapat di buka,  mungkin telah di Padam. 

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1423323867778595&id=285669801544013

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SaEmh4emKGPW3l_94tp96YqMwJHWkB1Vy5sWRgaE7s8/edit?usp=drivesdk

8.  Islam melarang penganutnya menghina agama lain…

     27 January 2018

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1425362994241349&id=285669801544013

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TVWSZtROAttY3SDSFewzySg6cZgKm6VYqq4HvbLClj0/edit?usp=drivesdk

9.  [Kami Menghina Agama Lain Ataupun Islam Dihina Dan Kami Menjawab Fitnah Mereka?  

     Inilah Kronologinya]

     30 January 2018

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1428203980623917&id=285669801544013

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZBH32CCx5zRgUZnjLAMfNmeUxdX90hh0-Jg8IwChyEw/edit?usp=drivesdk

10.Agama Hindu berasal dr Islam. 24/6/14

https://rejuvenasiakal.wordpress.com/2014/06/14/agama-hindu-berasal-dari-islam/#comments

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bO2YESF8IyHG1PYfPCVQqRz81hpNeWb1vq2f6wX7wRk/edit?usp=drivesdk

11.Menjawab: Hindu Mendakwa Simbol Pahang Dari Dewa Murugan

Paling terbaru,  15 Jan 2019

Multiracial Reverted Muslim MRM 

https://www.facebook.com/740248256074109/posts/1882391531859770/

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zml_hdDfWZXKocSA83Aq_DSEgUa1oZIg7Uhb3wNlB_Q/edit?usp=drivesdk

Video links of Firdaus Wong 

1.Firdaus Wong,  mentioned about Veda, Recommend the books  Kau Sembah  Apa?  Yahudi, Kristian , Hindu, Buddha berasal dari Islam? 1.10.00mi: https://youtu.be/dl6h7ku6B_Y

2.Firdaus Wong  on Veda: https://youtu.be/_QiEeSjTg5Y

Vedas prohibits idol worship? Salah tafsir ayat yajurveda 40.9

(Video asal drpd  1.10.00mi: https://youtu.be/dl6h7ku6B_Y)

3.Firdaus Wong  ..konsep tuhan Hindu  6.15m-14.50: https://youtu.be/7SUe5X_u-xI

Cth Bhagavad Gita 7.20...Demigod ialah Tuhan palsu (time 10.50)

Lain-Lain Link Berkaitan

Mana kredibiliti,  integriti dan maruah Firdaus Wong (anak murid Zakir)  untuk menjawab perkara yang diungkitkannya sendiri ?

1.Menyahut Cabaran Firdaus

https://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2019/04/menyahut-cabaran-firdaus-wong-wai-hung.html

2.CABARAN TERBUKA KEPADA ZAKIR NAIK DAN SEMUA ANAK MURIDNYA.

https://www.facebook.com/1637620529880484/posts/2029297564046110/

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2019/04/cabaran-terbuka-kepada-zakir-naik-dan.html

3.Berani kerana Benar

https://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2019/04/berani-kerana-benar-kronologi-cabaran.html

4.Salah Siapa?

https://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2019/04/salah-siapa.html

5.Malu apa Awongku!

https://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2019/04/malu-apa-awongku.html

Demanding a Public Apology

1.  Menyahut Cabaran Firdaus Wong Wai Hung.
http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2019/04/menyahut-cabaran-firdaus-wong-wai-hung.html

Some information on Lies, Slander, Blasphemy on Hinduism and

Stupidity of  Zakir Naik

1. Dilemma Muslim…

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2017/05/dilema-muslim.html

2. Kepada Orang yg Mempertuhankan Zakir.

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2017/05/kepada-orang-yang-mempertuhankan-zakir.html

3. 4 Soalan Membongkar Kebodohan Zakir

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2018/02/4-soalan-yang-membongkar-pembohongan.html

4. Zakir's Modus Operandi

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2017/05/zakirs-modus-operandi-on-religion.html

5. A Demand for Public Apology from  Zakir for Insulting Hinduism.

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2018/02/an-open-letter-to-drzakir-naik-hindus.html

6. Warkah Terbuka untuk Muslim

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2017/05/warkah-terbuka.html

7. Lies of Zakir on Hinduism

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2016/05/lies-of-zakir-on-hinduism.html

8. The Real Interpretations That Hindus Follow. Svetasvatara Upanishad (Sv.4.20)
August 22, 2017

http://sivasiddhi1082.blogspot.com/2017/08/the-real-interpretations-that-hindus.html

9.The Real Interpretations That Hindus Follow. Yajur Veda (Y.40.9)
August 22, 2017

http://sivasiddhi1082.blogspot.com/2017/08/the-real-interpretations-that-hindus_22.html

10. The Real Interpretations That Hindus Follow. Bhagavad Gita verse 7.20
January 18, 2019

http://sivasiddhi1082.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-real-interpretations-that-hindus.html

Penghinaan  Terhadap Agama Hindu oleh Firdaus Wong  dan Ahmad Iqram

Kredibiliti dan Integriti  !!!???

Senarai Artikel Saya.

1. Surat Terbuka. Tidak dijawab.

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2017/07/surat-terbuka-kepada-firdaus-wong-wai.html

2. Surat Tuntutan. Tidak dijawab.

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2017/10/surat-tuntutan-kepada-firdaus-wong-wai.html

3. Surat Mengenai Thaipusam. Tidak dijawab.

Bahagian 1

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2017/10/menjawab-kemungkaran-dan-persoalan.html

Bahagian 2

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2017/10/menjawab-kemungkaran-dan-persoalan_14.html

4. Penghinaan Terhadap Agama Hindu Oleh Firdaus Wong dan Ahmad Iqram

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2018/07/analisa-post-post-firdaus-wong-dan.html?m=1

5. Surat Terbuka Umum.
Kepada,
Para Muslim yang Mukmin.
Pihak- Pihak yang berkenaan.
Firdaus Wong Wai Hung Official Menghina Agama Hindu.

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2018/02/surat-terbuka-umum.html

6.Anda Biadap kerana Menghina Agama. #1.1
January 16, 2019
Fakir Ilmu,MRM dll

http://cintaimalaysiaku.blogspot.com/2019/01/anda-biadap-menghina-agama.html

7.Anda Biadab kerana Menghina Agama #1.3
January 18, 2019
Ahmad Iqram Mohamad Noor

http://cintaimalaysiaku.blogspot.com/2019/01/anda-biadab-kerana-menghina-agama-1.html

Full Document in the Pdf 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/179D0FN-XfQ0-o2jzwJFKzFcIXAWsjZFk/view?usp=sharing

Aaseevagam: Atheistic Folly Cult. Part 3

Aaseevagam: Atheistic Folly Cult.

A Ploy to Deceive and Destroy Hinduism.

STOP THE FOLLY CULT.

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Part 3

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1870884563220745&id=1637620529880484

A Brief Explanation About Aaseevaham Cult.

Introduction.

Aaseevaham or Ajivikam is an atheistic belief. They reject God ( Paramatma or Brahman).Aaseevaham is Ajivikam. Ajivikam is nastikam. Nastikam is atheist. Atheist is anti God. Thus anti Shaivam. So it is anti Murugan and Shivan. Aaseevagam is anti Hinduism. 

Aaseevagars rejected all the Hindu influenced period from First Tamil Sangam up to Bhakti Movement in Tamil Nadu. Thus, Aaseevaham rejects Shaivism. 

Idea or Origin of Aaseevaham.

Some atheists group in Tamil Nadu reintroduce Ajivikam ( the dead cult) in the name of Aaseevaham. The name difference is because of the removal of Sanskrit’s elements from Tamil language. The letter ‘Ji’ is Sanskrit loaned letter replaced with Tamil letter ‘See’, thus Ajivikam coined into Aaseevakam.

The idea of Aaseevaham in Tamil Nadu reestablished and mooted by a group of people including Prof.K.Nedunchezhiyan (follower of E. V. Ramasamy, an atheist), Dr. R. Mathivanan, VCK Ayothidasar, some so called Aaseevaga Sittars (not sure ???), Orissa Balu ( marine researcher), Senthil Mallar (propagandist, his father Asirvatham??? Wrote on this.) and a few other names at recent time.(Need to verify further).

These people were most probably infected with some kind of sickness called ‘Tamil Syndrome’, a kind overly love toward own origin and hallucinating their own glory. Or, working for conversion agents. I guess.(Aaseevaham ‘doctrines’ indicates the hidden agenda which encourages conversions ) 

This propaganda were expanded through time with a well designed documentations by a group named Tamil Chintanaiyalar Peravai (other different post on different names available). 

Origin of Ajivika.

Ajivikam, ( Aaseevagam ) is referring to naked wandering ascetics or also called Makkhaliyar. It is a product or brain child of / by Makkhali Gosala about 484 BC (500-250 BC) from Magadha, Uttar Pradesh, India. He is NOT a Tamil or from Tamil Nadu. His father, Mankha make living by selling images (idols). He lives in a cowshed with the mother, Badha. He is an atheist, Makkhali himself not sure if God exist. He followed naked wandering ascetic life after escaped from his master (landlord). He escaped naked, wondered around until saved by some other Sadhus such as Kapalikas (Shaivites). Then only he became a ‘Sithar’ ( Sadhu / monk). Unfortunately, he never achieved realisation, he never realised the existence of God. He believes FATE, not believing Karma. Towards his end of life, he thinks his ‘God’ named ‘Hallah’, Hallah like a bamboo root. Most of his time past in dance, drunk or remain quiet. 

Buddhism and Jainism were branched out from Ajivikam and became rivalry to each other. Makkhali had taught Mahavira (Jain) and Gautama (Buddhist) earlier but separated because different interpretations of doctrines. (Got different opinions about the relation betweem the three)

Aseevagam is nastikam (a teaching of denying / skeptical on the existence of God). So, how can Aaseevagars believing Lord Subramaniam or other Hindu Gods and Goddesses as Divine Beings?

If we study their claims in detail through their propagations, speeches, videos, articles which are available now on Internet about this cult. It clearly indicates that they have fabricated Sanatana Dharmic Core Doctrines and reproduced a very well designed, imagined and manipulated documents, the so called ‘facts’ about their cult. We can clearly see the actual deceiving and camouflaging propaganda in progress to break Hindus and Hinduism. Splitting the Hindus is their important agenda, it will be easy for them to convert Hindus to other religions if they are able to convince the to believe themselves (Hindus) as atheist!

Aaseevahars or Ajivikas believe the existence of atman (soul), BUT do not believe the existence of Paramaatman ( Brahman / God), thus they are claiming that, they are worshiping ancestors recently. We can see Chinese people going to cemetery to pray their ancestors. If these Tamilism group is really believes ancestors worshipper, they should do like the Chinese, go to cemetery ( NOT TEMPLE) to pray their ancestors. In line to ancestors worship, they are claiming Hindu God and Goddesses as their ancestors. It is an attempt to demean and degrade Hindu Gods. It is a pre-planned, underground movement and a systematic method to deceive and destroy Hinduism from within. 

‘Golden Era’ of Aaseevaham? 

( Kalabra, Dark age of Tamil Nadu as per History) 

There is no such age of golden period for Aaseevaham because Ajivikas were eliminated during Asoka reign. Those escaped from Asoka scattered around. Some escaped to south.

This so called Aaseevagars assume that Kallapirar (Kalabra) era (250 AD to 550 AD +- ) as golden age for Tamils. But during Kalabra reign, Jainism and Buddhism spread well, and at later period Shaivism and Vaishnavism took over and spread in Tamil Nadu. Nowhere Aaseevaham practiced. 

The era of anti Vedas and anti divinity by Ajivika, Jain, Buddhist, Carvaka, Ajnana etc. existed during 500 BC - 500 AD. Ajivikas flourished during Bindusara (Maurya Empire 297 - 273 BC). Asoka ( 268 - 232 BC ) son of Bindusara, converted to Buddhism. Later, Asoka eliminated Ajivikas from Northern part of India, some of them escaped to Kannada and Tamil Nadu. So, Aaseevaham is a died cult, doesn't EXIST anymore. Some  anti-Hindu Tamils try to revive it in order to confuse the Tamil Hindus.

Scriptures of Aaseevagam?

There is no original text or scriptures about Ajivikas, most of informations were extracted from Jain text and Buddhist text in Pali. NO original text in Tamil. For example, Neelakesi scripture is a Jain text. No single word mentioned in any of Hindu Scriptures or Tamil Sangam Literatures.

They claim Thirukural is their (Aaseevaham) scripture. Thiruvalluvar is claimed as a Samanar aaseevagar because of more secular nature of views in Thirukural. They ignored or blind themselves to the first verse in Thirukural mentioned about Bhagavan (God). They accept Tolkappiyam as their scripture for its Tamil language contributions. All the other scriptures refers to Divinity of Hinduism (Brahmins, Sanskrit, Vedanta, etc.) were rejected by them. 

Aasevagam have a new fabricated, well designed documentations by a group named Tamil Chintanaiyalar Peravai. It is best to rename the group as Tamil Karpanaiyalar Peravai. ( Chintanaiyalar means thinker, Karpanaiyalar means dreamer ) Because the method of proving (if study their videos on YouTube will reveal their mockery) their ‘theory’ is by assuming and imagining with their own coined words then relate it with other languages, religions and its meanings. There is no solid authentic evidence to support their claims. They tried to associate their claims with some archeology evidence but it is dubious. Their major ‘ evidence ‘ from literature and own coined terminologies. It is all were imagined, falsified and faked. 

There are many videos on Youtube by this propagandist group with their imagined information about so called ‘facts’ about Aaseevaham or Tamil religion. Actually, it was a hijacked version of Hinduism with the elimination of Divinity, Vedic and Sanskrit influences. These group had reproduced almost all the Hindu fundamental teachings in to their distorted, manipulated versions of stories. 

They claim further, not only Hinduism but all other religions, languages, civilizations etc. were originated from Aaseevakam of Tamil Nadu. 

The ‘Tamil Syndrome' is chronic among Tamils from lower socioeconomic groups such as Paraiyar, Pallar, Mallar, Kuravar, Kallar and etc are considered as Aaseevagars, listed by the so called Tamil Chintanaiyalar Peravai. This is RIDICULOUS. 

Be aware, the so claimed Aaseevaham is a ploy.

Their modus operandi is to break the unity among Indians and Hindus. By destroying unity among Indians and Hindus, they can easily impose their agenda. 

Aaseevaham is an anti Hinduism cult, full of lies, slanders and blasphemy against Hindu scriptures and God. 

To be continued in part 4

Om Namah Shivaya 

Sri Sivasiddhi.

Sivasiddhi Spiritual Foundation Malaysia

Adviser : Anmiga Sagotharar

16 July 2018

Part 1

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1861071034202098&id=1637620529880484

Part 2.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1865858180390050&id=1637620529880484