Thursday, 12 August 2021

E.V. Ramasamy Naicker: Social Reformer or Anti-Hindu Anaryar?

 E.V. Ramasamy Naicker: Social Reformer or Anti-Hindu Anaryar?

(Thanthai Periyar or Manthai Anaryar?)

E.V. Ramasamy Naicker (EVR) and his followers claim that they are using Pagutharivu (Rational / Logic Thinking / Knowledge), but most of their views on Hinduism are illogical, misinterpreted and in bad faith. He is anti Hindu, demeaning Hinduism but endorsed other religions.  He was an Indian social activist and politician who started the Self-Respect Movement and Dravidar Kazhagam. He is known as the 'Father of the Dravidian movement'. He rebelled against Brahminical ‘dominance’ and gender and caste inequality in Tamil Nadu, India. 

There is no truth in activities but his personal vengeance on Hinduism and Brahmins made him manipulate Tamils in the name of social justice by using caste and untouchability as his major weapon. Today Covid 19 made entire people become untouchables. If EVR is alive, he wants to blame who?


Early Life

E.V. Ramasamy was born in Erode (17 September 1879 – 24 December 1973), Madras Presidency to Venkatapa Nayakar and Chinna Thayee Muthammal and belongs to the Balijas social group from Kannada. A Kannada  by birth but accepted as Father among Tamils! Foundly called Periyar among someTamils. Who named him this title? He insulted Tamils more than anyone. I prefer to rename his title as periyavengayum.

Schooled up to standard 5, left school because of some discipline probably. Married  his first wife Nagammai  when 19 years old. His wife Nagamal used to go to the temple but EVR used some goons’ help to scare her (mentioned by Swami Chidambaram,Tamilar Thalaivar).  His 5 month old daughter died.  Reprimanded by father (a staunch Hindu) for his behaviour, went on pilgrimage to Kasi. Incident in Kasi when a non-Brahmin south Indianman chased him away from the eating place made him angry towards Hinduism, especially Brahmins.


Second wife Maniammai was born as Gandhimathi to Kanagasabai Mudaliar who was a party member of the Justice Party. Soon after her father's death, she joined the Dravidar Kazhagam (Justice Party renamed ), founded by  E. V. Ramasamy in 1942–43. She became EVR's personal assistant, taking care of him, and eventually married him in 1949. EVR's marriage with a much younger Maniammai (31 years old, EV Ramasamy 72 years old, considered as his adopted daughter) and his appointment of her as his successor shocked many of his party leaders. Another reason given is to look after the wealth of the party. EVR's disciple C. N. Annadurai stated that EVR had set a bad example by marrying a much younger woman. He formed a new party called Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam.


Manipulate Dravidian Ideology.

Without the term Dravida, EVR cannot talk about anything with Tamils. He is a Kannada not Tamil. Robert Caldwell through his book  ‘A Grammar of Tamil’. Coined the word Dravida,   it divided Tamil and  Sanskrit.  Max Mueller coined the word Arya. EV Ramasamy manipulated those words on Tamil people for his political gain. He uses the Dravida myth to cover his back from Tamils, otherwise he will be kicked out of TN.


Selective Anti God Atheism.

The believer of God considered as stupid, erected his statue in front of Hindu temples but not Church or Mosques. Never said anything about other religions because he knew the consequences and  punishment by them. Hindus are very tolerant and  ignore everything.



Manipulated Hindu concepts to brainwash Tamils.

Used untouchability as a major tool in his propaganda of brainwashing of Tamils. 



1.Anti Brahmins.

Brought the concept of Brahmin and Non Brahmin by EVR 1919, written in Desa Bhaktan.  Hindus generally knew the myth of Arya Dravida. Thiru Vi Ka mentioned  Arya Dravida as a myth, started in the name of God, against the Justice party. EVR is always against Brahmin. 1000s essays, 80% against Brahmin. Probably after the Kasi incident. Came up with the slogan “Break Gandhi  kick Brahmin”, “Parpan and snake”, etc.. Every blame goes to Brahmins. 


2.Caste and Untouchables.

No caste is mentioned in any Hindu scriptures. Caste originated in Spain/Portugal and was approved by the pope. Varna was manipulated into caste and used by this anti Hindu group. 

Untouchability is part and parcel of human life, Covid 19 made the entire world's population become untouchables to each other. Even today, Hinduism practices untouchability during death and birth. 

When GANDHI brought the idea on Alayam Prevasiam,  Shudras can enter temple up to Kodimaram so do the dalits, but EVR rejected because  dalit and shudra are not same. On temple entrance issue. Harijans cannot enter Garbha Griha.  EVR claims that  Pariah women wearing jackets and Pariah men becoming literate are reasons for the rise in cloth prices and unemployment (Nasthikam, 2 March 1963).


3.Demeaned Hindu Scriptures and God.

a.Wrote Kamba Rasam to demean Kambar Ramayanam. Kambar is a Tamil but declared Kambar as Tamil enemy (Tamil aethiri), Brahmin’s supporter as traitor (Parpana atharvana drogi).


b.Insulting Tolkappiyar in his book Tamilum Tamilarum as a traitor (drogi), Arya’s coolie, inserted arya dharma in Tamil Nadu.etc.


c.Wrote bad on Periya Puranam. 


d.Insulted Tiruvalluvar and Thirukkural as shit on a golden plate (Tange thatil vaika patha malam) 


e.Periyar also criticised Subramanya Bharathi in the journal Ticutar for portraying Mother Tamil as a sister of Sanskrit in his poems.   Subramanya Bharathi says Tamilnadu is the land of Arya. Bharati supported the Varna system, he said, “without varna, human civilization will face destruction.”


f.Wrote bad on Silapathikaram. 

Hinduism as a foolish and evil way. 30 March 1951, EVR called Silappadikaram, the great Tamil epic written by llango Adigal, as “nothing but a propaganda tool of Aryans”. 


g.Wrote bad things about Kandha Shasti as vulgar in his articles in ‘Indhu Mathap Pandigai’. Recently some of his followers, the so-called Karrupar Kootham produced a video to demean Kandha Shasti.


h. Wrote bad on Ramayana. Try to portray Ravana as Tamil(Dravida) hero  while Rama as Northern (Arya) villain. Ravana was born in Uttar Pradesh, Noida today and his wife from Delhi today, so how come he can be a Tamilan?


Targeted Only Hindu Gods.

a.Break Vinayagar Idols in Salem, 1953 In order to condemn idolatry and to show to the world that there was no divine power in idols, he organised a campaign. His followers and himself broke the idol of PILLAIYAR (Vinayaga) at public places. EVR is so stupid to think that Hindus praying idol.


b.In 1956, EVR organised a procession to the Marina Beach to burn pictures of the Hindu God Rama

c.1968, The Ramayana, Epic of Aryans, was burnt all over Tamil Nadu as a mark of protest against cruel treatment of Dravidians by the Aryans in the Ramayana.


d.1969  EVR announced a Programme of agitation to enter the Sanctum Sanctorum of temples to eradicate the caste discrimination practised, according to which only Brahmins could become Archakas (Priests) and perform worship (poojas) in Sanskrit language only instead of Tamil.


e.1971, His followers. Put a garland of slippers on the statue of Ram and naked Sita in 1971 Salem. During the court case, the judge said, “If Hindus are never against that, it means they agree…” 


Anti Sanskrit, Hindi and Tamil

He is against Sanskrit and  Hindi and Tamil in different way. He propagates English.

He claims Dalit /Shudra no relationship with Sanskrit. 

But EVR forgot that Valmiki  Vyasa was born to a fisherwoman. He wrote Vedas in Sanskrit. 

Valluvar of non Brahmin wrote Panchangam, how they wrote without knowing Sanskrit? 

Ambedkar a dalit said, only Sanskrit can be National language of India. 



Against Tamil language and Culture

Made controversial remarks on the Tamil language and people from time to time. On one occasion, he referred to the Tamil people as "barbarians" and the Tamil language as the "language of barbarians". Talk bad on Tamil language as kathumirandi moli ( language of barbarian), Tamil padikathe, kathumirandi aividuvai ( don’t read Tamil,you will become barbarian). Better learn English.


Against Caste but become more communal.

Use jathy and caste as his political tool to gain support of the public. Claim to be rejected his caste title but remain signing his name with his jati title as Naiker. The Jathi issue was never solved but increased into more radical groups. Seeman, karrupar Kootham etc.


Ideology of Communism, Marxism and Dravidastan.

No real direct involvement in Communism but accepts the ideology of Marxism. Traveled to Russia to spread the ideas of socialism. Generally he is a communist. He is against religious belief. His followers started Marxist Periyarist Communist Party. 

He praised Adolf Hitler on the Nazi style persecutions  on Jews and warned Brahmins, “Parpanan (a traditional honorific Tamizh term for twice-born, changed into a derogatory term by Dravidianists) should be driven away from this land,” EVR wrote on 29 January 1954. He further said, “However much a rationalist or atheist, if a person is a Brahmin he should not be allowed in our organizations” (20 October 1967).


Was in the Congress Party with Gandhi in the beginning. Later, TM .Nair and PT Thiayagarajan  started the Justice Party (Nithi Katchi) 1916. Supported by British. EVR  joined the Justice party, later started the Self Respect Movement (Suya Mariyathai Sangam), supported by British and Justice Party, against the idea of  India, Religion and Dalits.

Started Dravida Kalagam. EVR  worked for British,  who didn't want independence in 1947. Wanted for separate state of Dravidastan etc.


Conclusion.

Against Devadasi in Temples, but never against nuns in missionary and women helpers in madrasah. Against Tamil Brahmins but not Tamil Ulamas or Tamil Padris. Against Sanskrit in temples but never against Arabic/urdu in Mosques or English/ Hebrew in churches. Asked Hindus to convert to other religions.

EVR, for his personal vengeance, used caste and untouchability sentiments to manipulate the minds of Tamils to go against their own religion and belief system. This paved the way for other religions to convert Hindus; they supported them.  He is not a Tamil but manipulated Tamil by using the Dravida myth to be part of them. He never did any social reform, in fact he created more communal mongers against humanity in the name of rationalism and social justice.  


Om Namasivaya.


Sivasiddhi.

Sivasiddhi Spiritual Foundation.

12 August 2021



Reference

1.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periyar_E._V._Ramasamy


2.https://web.archive.org/web/20081024183112/http://www.india-today.com/itoday/millennium/100people/durai.html


3.https://web.archive.org/web/20081020232217/http://www.newstodaynet.com/2006sud/06mar/0803ss1.htm

https://web.archive.org/web/20090121011929/http://www.thanthaiperiyar.org/special-pages/periyar-otherside/


4.https://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft5199n9v7&chunk.id=s1.5.24&toc.depth=1&toc.id=ch5&brand=ucpress



Ramasamy, Sumathy (1997). Passions of the Tongue: Language Devotion in Tamil Nadu 1891-1970. University of California.


5.https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B1YqKHcIB-soLVdJMVo2bHJsc3c


6.EVR admitted 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qTlSsiIuAo&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR0xLGEwAug9zT87QseFXkq_85xb5JQV3X659bHc2cZYnbtTMXcbthZq_2k


7.https://www.forwardpress.in/2016/07/ramkatha-periyars-perspective/


8.https://newindian.activeboard.com/t65614077/no-unesco-did-not-credit-ev-ramasamy/


9.https://threader.app/thread/1133721502170243072


10.https://www.rediff.com/news/report/dravidian-outfit-accuses-rajinikanth-of-lying-on-periyar-files-police-complaint/20200117.htm


11.https://quotestats.com/author/periyar-e-v-ramasamy-quotes/


12. What exactly happened in Salem 1971 .https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/explained-what-exactly-happened-at-periyars-1971-salem-event-that-rajinikanth-referred-to


13.What Mistake EV Ramasamy did https://www.quora.com/Was-Periyar-a-good-man-or-not-Why-do-some-people-scold-that-person-What-mistake-did-he-do


14. Rajani on Salem 1971 EV Ramasamy issues .https://www.facebook.com/1128659817211718/posts/3155466301197716/


15.Biography of EVR

http://pmu.edu/centres/pdf/Biographical_Sketch.pdf


16.  EV Ramasamy earned by selling God's name. 

Told pagutharivi,  but his followers pray in front his stone… 

https://www.facebook.com/thevarvamsamfilms/videos/195283495199970/


17. Indhu Mathap Pandikaigal

file:///C:/Users/user1/Downloads/indhu%20mathap%20pandikaigal.pdf



18.Tamil kathumirandi 

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3468853759803067&id=100000354303399


19.Periyar Thiagiya Drogiya https://youtu.be/uaaQkuCKFs8


20.Veeramani, K. (2005). Collected Works of Periyar E.V.R. Chennai: The Periyar Self-Respect Propaganda Institution. P.503


21.Tamils, Language, Culture as  Barbarian ,

 Raghavan, B. S. (9 October 2000). "Thanthai Periyar". The Hindu Business Line. Archived from the original on 23 November 2001. Retrieved 4 January 2015.


22.Ramaswamy, Cho. "E.V. Ramaswami Naicker and C.N. Annadurai". India Today: 100 people of the millennium. Archived from the original on 24 October 2008. Retrieved 27 October 2008.

"Periyar's Otherside". thanthai periyar.org. Archived from the original on 21 January 2009. Retrieved 21 February 2009.


23.https://theperiyarproject.com/tag/periyar-and-communism/

Communism cannot grow as long as Brahminism exists.

Source: Periyar E. V. Ramasamy. 2011. Periyar Kalanjiyam 9: Jaathi-Theendaamai, Paagam (3). [Periyar Repository 9: Caste-Untouchability Part (3)]. Second Edition. Chennai: Periyar Suyamariyathai Prachaara Niruvanam. 253-256.

24.https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/tamil-nadu/2021/apr/06/v-anaimuthu-close-associate-of-periyar-bc-reservation-crusaderpasses-away-2286700.html

Marxist Periyarist Communist Party, V.Anaimuthu, a close associate of EVR

25.https://www.pmu.edu/centres/pdf/Biographical_Sketch.pdf

26. Kanda Shasti Apasa Purana


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2502566033179675&id=100002789076780



Thursday, 29 July 2021

Post FB Firdaus Memfitnah Sai Baba.

 Post FB Firdaus Memfitnah Sai Baba. 


Firdaus Wong dalam Fb menyiarkan satu siaran mengenai tokoh agama Hindu iaitu Sai Baba sebagai penipu, membuat serangan seksual terhadap wanita dan kanak-kanak. Beliau cuba kaitkan hal wanita kepada tokoh agama Hindu setelah tersangkut dengan seorang ustaz tempatan iaitu Ustaz Ebit Liew baru-baru ini.  Masalah antara kedua mereka cuba dikaitkan dengan tokoh Hindu. Firdaus Wong menyerang Sai Baba dengan artikel Ariff Ahmad III 


Antara fitnah ialah,

1.Sexual harassment terhadap wanita-wanita. 

2.Terdengar dakwaan dia melakukan sex abused dekat kanak-kanak lelaki.

3.Punca kekayaan tersebut adalah daripada aktiviti haram

4.Pentaksubnya pula akan menyerang mana-mana individu atau pihak yang cuba mengkritik dan membongkar penyelewengan dan kecurangan Sai Baba ini.


Adakah samada Firdaus atau Ariff Ahmad mempunyai bukti keatas klaim mereka?

Apakah keperluan menyentuh hal Sai Baba dalam masalah antara Firdaus dengan Ustaz Ebit Liew?


Ada diantara komen-komen dalam post ini mengambarkan situasi masalah antara mereka.



Post Firdaus Wong 25 Julai 2021. 

SAI BABA - TOKOH AGAMA, KAYA, DERMAWAN DAN PENIPU!


Diceritakan Sai Baba punya hampir 100 juta pengikut. Yang ekstrimis ada hampir 6 juta orang sanggup mati untuknya. Begitulah betapa kuat dan berpengaruhnya Sai Baba ketika itu walaupun tiada media sosial di zamannya.


Sai Baba dikenali sebagai “wali” untuk agama Hindu yang “soleh” dengan “keramat” yang boleh merawat pelbagai penyakit. Yang lebih menarik, dia mampu mengeluarkan emas dari tangan kosong dengan menggunakan silap mata.


Sai Baba juga sangat kaya. Ketika zaman hidupnya, tiada siapa yang tahu dari mana datang kekayaannya. Dia membangunan hampir 1200 pusat organisasinya, banyak rumah-rumah perlindungan, sekolah-sekolah dan hospital-hospital dia bangunkan. Dia dikenali juga sebagai seorang dermawan dan filantropis.


Popularitinya di kalangan rakyat dan orang awam menjadikan Sai Baba untouchable dan invincible. Politikus dan kerajaan terpaksa menunggang popularitinya. Walaupun mereka mendengar dan mendapat laporan tentang kecurangannya.


Ketika itu pun telah muncul beberapa pihak yang bangkit membongkarkan penipuan-penipuan Sai Baba seperti silap matanya, cuci duit dan sexual harrassment terhadap wanita-wanita. Juga terdengar dakwaan dia melakukan sex abused dekat kanak-kanak lelaki.


Tetapi semua itu dinafikannya dengan kata-kata hikmah, sedih, cerita sumbangannya selama ini dan air mata mata keramat. Pentaksubnya pula akan menyerang mana-mana individu atau pihak yang cuba mengkritik dan membongkar penyelewengan dan kecurangan Sai Baba ini.


Nama Sai Baba terlalu besar sehingga para mangsa menjadi takut hendak melaporkan salah lakunya. Bahkan pihak kerajaan juga takut nak ambil apa-apa tindakan. Sehinggalah seorang demi seorang mangsa tampil.


Akhirnya nama Sai Baba goyang. Yang mencari kebenaran meninggalkan Sai Baba. Yang taksub, masih terus menyembah Sai Baba sampai hari ini.


Setelah kematian Sai Baba, didapati sejumlah harta bernilai berbillion dijumpai. Setelah disiasat, kebanyakan punca kekayaan tersebut adalah daripada aktiviti haram yang menggunakan khidmat Sai Baba untuk disucikan.


Itu kisah Sai Baba. Sebab itu Islam melarang taksub. Melarang melampau dan memuji muja tokoh secara berlebihan. Dalam berbaik sangka, tetap kena skeptikal. Islam tidak menolak logik, Islam itu sendiri logik dan beyond logic.


Terus ber #mindaskeptikal dan amalkan #evidencebased dalam kehidupan anda. Jangan ditipu dengan karaktor-karaktor seperti Sai Baba, Ustaz Mahdi, Abuya, Ibnu Muljam, dan akhir sekali Dajjal yang boleh membawa syurga dan neraka di depan mata anda.


;)


Kredit @aliff Ahmad lll


Apakah hubungan Aliff Ahmad dengan Firdaus Wong? Mengapakah Firdaus Wong mengkreditkan artikel ini kepada Ariff? Jika artikel milik Ariff, maka tindakan perlu diambil keatas Ariff Ahmad sekali.


Screenshot daripada Fb Firdaus ( Kini tiada dalam fb, akaun Fb Firdaus ditutup)









Komen saya dalam Link itu 






Komen-komen lain dari post berkenaan.

Ada pengikut Firdaus menyoal dia kerana tidak puas dengannya. 


  1. Firdaus perlu pakar psikologi… 

  2. Jangan menyampah


  1. Harun Yahya, Sai Baba, Ustaz… masalah perempuan? siapa Ustaz mangsa itu?


  1. A non Muslim questions! 

  1. Baik buat aduan dan fokus dakwa, posting ini hanya mengundang caci maki 


  1. Aku rasa kau boleh senyap

  1. Tak perlu sindir sampai Sai Baba 

  1. Tak ada Contoh lain ke selain drpd Sai Baba.. 


i. Dan lain-lain 



Firdaus Wong memberi amaran kepada mereka yang menyoal dia, seolah-olah dia amat suci! 


"Diam itu lebih baik bagi anda kerana anda tidak tahu apa yang saya tahu" 

"... tulisan anda menjadi penyesalan diakhirat" 




Posting macam ini hanya membawa kebencian dan rasa marah antara kaum dan ugama. Tindakan tegas perlu diambil terhadap orang yang bertanggungjawab.



Om Namasivaya.


Sivasiddhi

Sivasiddhi Spiritual Foundation.

29 Julai 2021


Rujukan

1. Post Fb Firdaus mengenai Sai Baba (Akaun Fb Firdaus telah ditutup)

https://www.facebook.com/100067836357092/posts/141405804797297/




Firdaus Nangis?. 

https://fb.watch/72gYCGawhD/





Jhatka: Cara Sembelihan Hindu Kejam dan Kotor? (Jhatka Cruel and Unclean?)

 Jhatka: Cara Sembelihan Hindu Kejam dan Kotor?

(Jhatka: Cruel and Unclean?)


Fitnah Sembelihan Jhatka dengan Insiden Lain.

(Jhatka Slaughter Defamation with Other Incidents.)


Facebook Firdaus Wong Wai Hung, menyiarkan video bertajuk, “Korban Haiwan antara Islam dan Agama Lain.” pada 20 Julai 2021. Dalam siaran video berdurasi  6.35 minit. Audio suara mungkin milik Ahmad Iqram Mohd Noor, dikeluarkan oleh R&D Team MRM milik Firdaus Wong Wai Hung. 

(Facebook Firdaus Wong Wai Hung, posted a video entitled, "Animal Sacrifice between Islam and Other Religions." on July 20, 2021. In a 6.35 -minute video broadcast. The audio of the voice may belong to Ahmad Iqram Mohd Noor, released by R&D Team MRM belonging to Firdaus Wong Wai Hung.)


Seperti masa lalu, kandungan video itu memang salah dan fitnah terhadap agama Hindu. Dalam video itu, Ahmad Iqram cuba menggambarkan cara sembelihan Hindu/ Sikh sangat kejam dan tidak bersih. Dan mengagungkan cara sembelihan Islam.

(As in the past, the content of the video was indeed wrong and defamatory of the Hindu religion. In the video, Ahmad Iqram tries to describe the way Hindu/ Sikh slaughter is very cruel and unclean. And glorifying the Islamic way of slaughter.)


Saya telah membuat video penjelasan kepada video itu berdasarkan kandungan dibawah.

(I have made an explanatory video to the video based on the content below)


Jhatka  atau Jhatiti (Sanskrit) bermaksud kaedah SEGERA / SEKEJAP, CEPAT, SEKALIGUS  bukan Hentakan. 

(Jhatka or Jhatiti (Sanskrit) means the method of IMMEDIATELY / INSTANTLY , QUICKLY, AT ONCE not Hit.) 

Memancung haiwan dengan parang sekali putus leher. Tiada hentakan atau takikkan yang berulang. (Strong single stroke with a sharp machete. No repeated hacking or knocking)


Definisi yang diberi oleh Ahmad Iqram, "Hentakan yang kuat dengan satu pukulan"  

(The definition given by Ahmad Iqram, "A strong blow with one blow") 

Gambar video hentakan dengan tukul pada lembu ditunjukan. Gambar itu tiada kaitan dengan agama Hindu. 

(A video picture of a blow with a hammer on a cow is shown. The picture has nothing to do with Hinduism)


Konsep Jhatiti dalam Hindu. 

Orang Hindu disyorkan menjadi vegetarian tetapi dalam keadaan tidak dapat mengawal nafsu memakan daging ayam atau kambing maka diwajibkan sembelih cara Jhatka. 

(The concept of Jhatiti in Hinduism.

Hindus are recommended to be vegetarians but in a state of unable to control the desire to eat chicken or mutton then it is obligatory to slaughter the Jhatka way).


Syarat Sembelih. 1

Harus atas nama kula deivam atau kaval deivam. Karma atma haiwan berkenaan di tanggung oleh Deva berkenaan. Kalau tidak, dosa karma di tanggung oleh pemakan. 

(Slaughter Conditions.  1

Must be on behalf of Kula deivam or kaval deivam.  The karma of the atma/animal is borne by the Deva.  Otherwise, the sin of karma is borne by the eater.)


Syarat Sembelih. 2

Haiwan berkenaan tidak harus menyedarinya. Sekiranya haiwan berkenaan menunjukkan tanda seperti ketakutan, menjerit bising, menangis atau melutut, haiwan itu tidak harus dikorban. Ini kerana haiwan yang ketakutan akan merembes hormon pemusnahan sel, boleh membawa mudarat dalam jangka panjang. 

(Slaughter Conditions.  2

The animal should not be aware of it.  If the animal shows signs such as fear, making loud noise , crying or kneeling, the animal should not be sacrificed.  This is because animals that are afraid of secreting cell-destroying hormones, can bring harm in the long run.)


Syarat Sembelih. 3

Satu kali hanyunan putus leher / memisah kepala dan badan. Ini untuk mematikan haiwan pada kadar segera, kesakitan minima dan otak tidak dapat mengeluarkan arahan merembes hormon pemusnahan sel. 

(Slaughter Conditions.  3

One single swing cut off the neck / separates the head and body.  This is to kill the animal at an immediate rate, minimal pain and the brain is unable to issue instructions to secrete cell-destroying hormones).


Isu karma, darah dan kebersihan,

Ahmad Iqram menekan isu darah dalam Islam. Kebersihan bukan isu disini jika daging haiwan itu dimasak segera. Dalam agama Hindu ia lebih kepada isu tanggung karma. Dosa memakan haiwan.

(Karma, Blood and hygiene issues,

Ahmad Iqram stressed the issue of blood in Islam.  Hygiene is not an issue here if the meat of the animal is cooked immediately.  In Hinduism it is more to the issue of karmic responsibility.  Sin eats animals)


Setiap orang Hindu yang warak amat mementingkan amalan Dharma. Iaitu, hanya membuat perkara yang  membawa karma positif atau neutral. Tidak melakukan perbuatan karma negatif. 

(Every pious Hindu is very concerned about the practice of Dharma.  That is, only do things that bring positive or neutral karma.  Do not do negative karmic deeds.)


Ahmad Iqram juga cuba mengagungkan sembelihan cara Islam sangat bersih, kasih sayang pada haiwan dengan cuba menunjukkan betapa kejamnya dan tidak bersih cara Hindu. 

(Ahmad Iqram also tried to glorify the very clean Islamic way of slaughtering, the love of animals by trying to show how cruel and unclean the Hindu way is.)


 Ahmad Iqram, agungkanlah cara agama kamu, saya tiada masalah, tetapi ia tidak patut dibuat dengan merendahkan amalan orang dengan cara yang salah/tipu. 

(Ahmad Iqram, glorify the way of your religion, I have no problem, but it should not be done by degrading people's practices in a wrong/deceitful way.)


Masalah Alih bahasa secara literal.

S. Ravi Ranjan,  "... STRONG SINGLE STROKE …"  (guna parang atau pedang tajam). 

Ahmad Iqram, "... HENTAKAN yang KUAT dengan SATU PUKULAN. (guna parang atau kapak, tetapi tunjuk gambar tukul). 

(Problem of Translating Literally.

S. Ravi Ranjan, "... STRONG SINGLE STROKE…" (use a machete or sharp sword). 

Ahmad Iqram, "... HIT a STRONG with ONE BLOW. (Use a machete or ax, but show the picture of the hammer). 

Kesimpulan. 

Jhatka atau Jhatiti ialah sembelihan haiwan dalam agama Hindu (atau Sikh sedikit berbeza konsep). Amat mementingkan karma, belas kasih terhadap haiwan, mengawal nafsu makan dan meminimakan derita haiwan. 

(Conclusion.

Jhatka or Jhatiti is the slaughter of animals in Hinduism (or Sikhs in a slightly different concept).  Highly concerned with karma, compassion for animals, controlling appetite and minimizing animal suffering.)


Menurut Manusmriti. 

Orang Hindu yang telah menerima Diksa atau Upanayana diwajibkan mengamalkan pemakanan vegetarian. Sekiranya hendak makan bukan vegetarian, maka diwajibkan sembelih cara Jhatka. 

(According to Manusmriti.

Hindus who have received Diksa or Upanayana are required to adopt a vegetarian diet.  If they want to eat non-vegetarian, then it is obligatory to slaughter the Jhatka way.)


Manakala mereka yang tidak menerima Diksa atau Upanayana, boleh memakan tanpa sembelih cara Jhatka, ia tidak mengumpul karma negatif atau positif. Sekadar sembahyang sebelum makan memadai. Kerana menurut hukum alam, semua benda hidup harus memakan benda hidup lain untuk kekal hidup. 

(While those who do not receive Diksa or Upanayana, can eat without slaughtering the Jhatka way, it does not accumulate negative or positive karma. Just a prayer before eating is enough. Because according to the laws of nature, all living things must eat other living things to survive.)


Orang Hindu diharamkan untuk memakan daging lembu kerana dosa besar

(Hindus are forbidden to eat beef because of a great sin.


Kepercayaan Hindu terhadap tiga Gunas atau tiga Jenis sifat manusia iaitu Sathva (kebaikan / vegetarian), Rajas (agresif / bukan vegetarian) dan Tamas (tidak aktif / bukan vegetarian)

(Hindus belief of three Gunas or three Kind of qualities of human namely Sathva (goodness/ vegetarian) , Rajas (aggressive/ non-vegetarian) and Tamas (inactive/ non-vegetarian) 


Orang Hindu selalu disarankan untuk menjadi vegetarian.  Diet vegetarian atau sattvic atau yogic  berpegang kepada Ahimsa, prinsip tidak menyebabkan bahaya kepada makhluk hidup lain.

(Hindus are always recommended to be vegetarians.  Vegetarian or sattvic or yogic diet holds to Ahimsa, the principle of not causing harm to other living beings). 


Memesongkan fakta agama Hindu seperti ini telah banyak kali dilakukan oleh Firdaus Wong dan Ahmad Iqram. Tindakan yang sewajarnya perlu diambil ke atas mereka.

(Distorting the facts of Hinduism like this has been done many times by Firdaus Wong and Ahmad Iqram. Appropriate action needs to be taken against them.)


Om Namasivaya


Sivasiddhi

Sivasiddhi Spiritual Foundation

29 Julai 2021



Reference.


1.The video posted in Firdaus Wong 20 July 2021,  

https://fb.watch/6XHdAhBiJc/  . His Fb account closed on 29/07/2021


2.THE BRUTAL BARBARIAN WAY OF KILLING FARMS ANIMALS IN KERALA (INDIA)

148,793 viewsJan 31, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Po-3nGuJ08


3. Jhatka

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jhatka


4.Jhatka: Cara Sembelihan Hindu Kejam dan Kotor? (27 Julai 2021)

https://youtu.be/E3-ctEdLPy8


5. Copy daripada Video MRM (video posted in Firdaus Wong 20 July 2021, )

https://youtu.be/EQ8bm6UphMw


6. Kalika Purana

7.Manusmriti

8. Shakta Agama


Friday, 23 July 2021

Which religion is older… Hinduism or Abrahamics?

 Which religion is older… Hinduism or Abrahamics? 


Islam is older than Hinduism? What? Oh no. 


Misinformed Among Abrahamics. 

I see this misconception among Abrahamics. And their claim, especially among Muslims. Islam is the oldest religion, earlier than Hinduism.

Their premises  are based on their scriptures both Christian and Islam. 

Islam and Christianity started with Adam the first man on earth, while Hinduism assume started after /during Abraham, and Abraham is thought to be Brahma (one of Trimurthi). Since Abraham was later than Adam. Their claim is 'valid' as per their scripture. This claim was proposed by Ahmad Iqram Mohd Noor in his book called 'Kau Sembah Apa?' without knowing anything about Hinduism. I had countered this before, but still some of them believed it and claiming. They should not compare and claim. 


Hindu Scriptures. 

Hindu scriptures (Srimad Bhagavatam) said, Brahma creates one Manu for every each Manvantara. At present, now is the 7th  Manu  (Vaisvatara Manu, first human for this Manvantara) appeared in Dravida Desa some 120,533,123 years ago. While, the appearance story of Adama is mentioned in Bhavisya Purana, in Kaliyuga which started in 3102 BC. If Adama and Adam are the same person, then Abrahamic religion is a very recent religion compared to Hinduism which is an eternal religion (no beginning or ending).


To be exact, today is 7th  of Aadi (4th month), 5122 (year of Plava) Kaliyuga (4th yuga), 28 th Chaturyuga, 7th Manvantara (Day in Brahmaloka)...


Brahma’s Life.

Brahma creates 1 Manu for each Manvantara. 14 Manus will be created in each Brahma's life span. Brahma’s life is about 72,000 Kalpas/ 311.04 trillion years (day and night in Brahma loka). Mahapralaya/ Universe destruction/big bang will take place after Brahma'a life span ends), 1 day of Brahma is 1 Kalpa/ 4.32 billion (14 Manvantara/ Pralaya/ minor destruction) years on earth, 1 Manvantara is  71 Chaturyuga / 306.72 million years. 1 Chaturyuga/ Divyayuga / Mahayuga is 4 yugas (Satya,Treta,Dvapara and Kali)/ 4.32 million years. 1 Satya yuga is 1.728 million years, 1 tretayuga is 1.296 million years, 1 dvapara yuga is 864,000 years and 1 Kaliyuga is 432,000 years. This list is mentioned in Aryabhatiya by Aryabhata and Vedanga Jyotisha and many Puranas. 


Photo from Srimad Bhagavatam.org


Comment of a Muslim. 

["Hindu tu bila? 

Lepas zaman Nabi Ibrahim.. 

Sedang asal Ras manusia ni berawal dari Nabi Allah Adam As.. 

Kemudian berkembang biak.. 

Dan berterabur ke seluruh muka Bumi...."] 


English translation.

(When is  Hinduism?

After the time of Prophet Ibrahim ..

While the origin of this human race originates from the Prophet of Allah Adam As ..

Then breed ..And scattered all over the face of the Earth ..)


My answer/ comment, 

“Dalam agama Hindu,  kisah Adama hanya timbul di Zaman Kali / sekarang (bermula sejak 3102 BC), sebelum itu ada 3 Zaman yang lebih awal lagi, iaitu Zaman Satya, zaman Dvapara, dan Treta. Set 4 zaman ini dipanggil  Chaturyuga, sekarang ialah Chaturyuga yang ke 28 daripada 71 kesemuanya,  Lengkap 71 Chaturyuga dikira 1 Manvantara. Sekarang ialah Manvantara yg ke 7 daripada 14 kesemuanya dikira 1 Kalpa ( 1 Brahma)...

Setiap Manvantara ada  satu Svayambhu Manu / manusia ciptaan pertama oleh Brahma. Untuk Manvantara ke 7 ini manusia pertama ialah Vaivasvata Manu....

Jadi Hindu bila? Fikirlah sendiri bro”


English translation,

(In Hinduism, the story of Adama only arises in the Kaliyuga / present yuga/age (starting from 3102 BC), before that there were 3 earlier yugas, namely the Satya yuga, the Dvapara yuga, and Treta yuga. This set of 4 yugas is called Chaturyuga/ Divya yuga, now it is the 28th Chaturyuga out of 71 in all, complete 71 Chaturyuga is counted as  1 Manvantara. Now it is the 7th Manvantara out of 14, completed all counted as 1 Kalpa (1 day of Brahma) ...

Each Manvantara has one Svayambhu Manu / human being first created by Brahma. For this 7th Manvantara, the first human is Vaivasvata Manu ....

So Hinduism is  when? Think for yourself bro)


He commented further. 

[Komen bro, 

."Masih belum cukup utk buat saya takjub atau heran..."]

(Come on bro,

"It's still not enough to amaze  or surprise me..)."


My answer/comment.


Bro, orang Hindu tidak akan cuba impress orang kerana tiada agenda convert.. So tak perlu heran atau takjub. Be yourself. 

(Bro, Hindus will not try to impress people because there is no agenda to convert .. So there is no need to be surprised or amazed. Be yourself.)



From the above we know, Hinduism is very far older compared to the story of Adam in Abrahamics. And the Brahma in Hinduism definitely not the Abraham in Islam. 

Every Brahma’s life span is 311.04 trillion years and will be replaced with a new Brahma. That means , the universe will be dissolved/destroyed/ Mahapralaya  and a new beginning. So, it is a cycle of no beginning (aathi) or ending (antham). When we explain to them, they cannot take it. If so, why do they need to talk about Hinduism?


Stay Away 

If you are not Hindu, please stay away from commenting on Hinduism. Your assumption on others can be blasphemy if it is wrong. Stick with your scripture and claim as you like not by comparing my scripture.


Sanatana Dharma is the eternal religion. No beginning or ending. Mother of all religions. 


Om Namasivaya

Sivasiddhi.

Sivasiddhi Spiritual Foundation

7 of Aadi 5122 Plava of Kaliyuga.

23 July 2021


Reference

1.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryabhata

2.http://srimadbhagavatam.org/canto8/chapter1.html

3.Kau Sembah Apa? Part 1

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2018/03/siri-menjawab-ahmad-iqram-mohd-noor-1.html

4.Kau Sembah Apa? Part 2

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2018/12/siri-menjawab-ahmad-iqram-mohd-noor-12.html