CABARAN TERBUKA KEPADA ZAKIR NAIK DAN SEMUA ANAK MURIDNYA

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CABARAN TERBUKA KEPADA ZAKIR NAIK DAN SEMUA ANAK MURIDNYA.
(Cabaran ini tiada kaitan dengan agama Islam )

SAYA MENCABAR ANDA SEMUA,

BUKTIKAN ATAU JAWAB HANYA TIGA SOALAN SAHAJA BERKAITAN AGAMA HINDU ATAU KITAB HINDU.

[ Soalan ditangguhkan sementara menunggu  cabaran disahut. Kalau berani kerana benar, samada Zakir atau anak muridnya pasti akan menyahut cabaran ini. Kalau tidak faham-fahamlah. ]

SEBAB-SEBAB CABARAN.

1.SECARA TERBUKA, ZAKIR DAN ANAK MURIDNYA MENDAKWA ORANG HINDU TELAH MENYIMPANG DARIPADA AJARAN  SEBENAR KITAB VEDA DENGAN MEMETIK AYAT-AYAT VEDA.

2.FIRDAUS WONG, ANAK MURID ZAKIR PERNAH MENCABAR SEBELUM INI.

3.ZAKIR DAKWA DIRINYA SEBAGAI PAKAR PERBANDINGAN AGAMA, RAMAI MUSLIM PERCAYA ZAKIR TELAH MEMBACA DAN MEMAHAMI SEMUA KITAB HINDU.

4. ZAKIR CUBA KELIRUKAN ORANG HINDU DENGAN NIAT UNTUK UBAH AGAMA, NAMUN LEBIH RAMAI ORANG MUSLIM DIKELIRUKAN BERBANDING ORANG HINDU.

KALAU BERANI, SAHUT CABARAN INI.

KALAU TIDAK,  HENTIKAN PEMBOHONGAN (TAQIYAH) ANDA TERHADAP AGAMA HINDU.

……..English version….

AN OPEN CHALLENGE TO ZAKIR NAIK AND ALL HIS PROTEGES.

I CHALLENGE ALL OF YOU,

GIVE PROOF OR ANSWER FOR ONLY 3 QUESTIONS ON HINDUISM OR HINDU SCRIPTURES.

[ Questions are on hold waiting for Zakir or his proteges to take the challenge.  If they are right, definitely they will take the challenge. If not one should understand their nature. ]

REASONS FOR CHALLENGE

1.OPENLY ZAKIR AND HIS PROTEGES CLAIM THAT HINDUS DEVIATED FROM THE REAL TEACHING OF VEDAS BY QUOTING FROM VEDAS.

2.FIRDAUS WONG, ZAKIR'S PROTEGE HAD CHALLENGED BEFORE.

3.ZAKIR CLAIMS HE IS A COMPARATIVE RELIGION EXPERT, MANY OF MUSLIMS BELIEVE ZAKIR READ AND UNDERSTOOD ALL THE HINDU SCRIPTURES.

4. ZAKIR TRIES TO CONFUSE HINDUS TO CONVERT THEM BUT MORE MUSLIMS ARE CONFUSED COMPARED TO HINDUS.

IF BRAVE, TAKE THIS CHALLENGE.

IF NOT, STOP YOUR LIES (TAQIYAH) ON HINDUISM.

…….........

OM MAHAKALI JAYAM.

SIVASIDDHI
SIVASIDDHI SPIRITUAL FOUNDATION.
12 APRIL 2019

PS.  Firdaus Wong Wai Hung and Zamri Vinod got my phone number.  Please do not hesitate to contact me.
Questions only will be revealed  to them once they accept the challenge.

Updates.

for CABARAN TERBUKA KEPADA ZAKIR NAIK DAN SEMUA ANAK MURIDNYA.

Posted 12 April 2019

1. 9 pm, 13/4/19

Until now, no news yet.

2. 6.30 pm,  14/4/2019-
a. Contacted  Kamarudin Abdullah and  Zamri Vinod given a copy through whatsapp  , both promised to talked to Firdaus.
b. Sent  copy via fb to Firdaus Wong,  Azran Chan, Abu Shariz (whatsapp),  Dr Mujahid Rawa.

3.Update for today, 8pm, 15 April 2019.
No news from the Firdaus, or Zamri Vinod yet.
Sent copies  Dr Maza, Harian Metro, Sinar and Fmt. and various link. Tq
Firdaus should respond since he started the challenge first.  His respond will prove his dignity, kredibiliti and integrity.

4.Update for today, 8pm, 15 April 2019.
No news from the Firdaus, or Zamri Vinod yet.
Sent copies  Dr Maza, B.harian , Sinar and Fmt. and various link. Tq
Firdaus should respond since he started the challenge first.  His respond will prove his dignity, kredibiliti and integrity.

5.Update today,  9.50pm, 17 April 2019
Abu Shahriz,  Kamarudin Abdullah and Zamri Vinod trying to talk to Firdaus and will come up  with a proper solid answer.
Meanwhile, I am preparing location in case Firdaus got guts to take up the challenge. Arranging for live Fb coverage.
Thanks.

6.Updated  11.10am ,20 April 2019
1.Firdaus or any of the students of Zakir including Zakir, Fariq,  never answered.
2. Abu Shahriz,
Do not want to help further.  He give up.
3.Zamri Vinod give up
4. Kamarudin Abdullah busy.

It is already 7 days, So I assumed,  Firdaus has no guts to answer through Fb which challenged on Fb earlier.
Next action plan
We will write in to Firdaus and all of them. Challenge  will continue.
Will inform you all any further progress

Tq

Reference.

Demanding a Public Apology

1.  Menyahut Cabaran Firdaus Wong Wai Hung.
http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2019/04/menyahut-cabaran-firdaus-wong-wai-hung.html

Some information on Lies, Slander, Blasphemy on Hinduism and

Stupidity of  Zakir Naik

1. Dilemma Muslim…

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2017/05/dilema-muslim.html

2. Kepada Orang yg Mempertuhankan Zakir.

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2017/05/kepada-orang-yang-mempertuhankan-zakir.html

3. 4 Soalan Membongkar Kebodohan Zakir

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2018/02/4-soalan-yang-membongkar-pembohongan.html

4. Zakir's Modus Operandi

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2017/05/zakirs-modus-operandi-on-religion.html

5. A Demand for Public Apology from  Zakir for Insulting Hinduism.

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2018/02/an-open-letter-to-drzakir-naik-hindus.html

6. Warkah Terbuka untuk Muslim

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2017/05/warkah-terbuka.html

7. Lies of Zakir on Hinduism

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2016/05/lies-of-zakir-on-hinduism.html

8. The Real Interpretations That Hindus Follow. Svetasvatara Upanishad (Sv.4.20)
August 22, 2017

http://sivasiddhi1082.blogspot.com/2017/08/the-real-interpretations-that-hindus.html

9.The Real Interpretations That Hindus Follow. Yajur Veda (Y.40.9)
August 22, 2017

http://sivasiddhi1082.blogspot.com/2017/08/the-real-interpretations-that-hindus_22.html

10. The Real Interpretations That Hindus Follow. Bhagavad Gita verse 7.20
January 18, 2019

http://sivasiddhi1082.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-real-interpretations-that-hindus.html

Penghinaan  Terhadap Agama Hindu oleh Firdaus Wong  dan Ahmad Iqram

Kredibiliti dan Integriti  !!!???

Senarai Artikel Saya.

1. Surat Terbuka. Tidak dijawab.

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2017/07/surat-terbuka-kepada-firdaus-wong-wai.html

2. Surat Tuntutan. Tidak dijawab.

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2017/10/surat-tuntutan-kepada-firdaus-wong-wai.html

3. Surat Mengenai Thaipusam. Tidak dijawab.

Bahagian 1

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2017/10/menjawab-kemungkaran-dan-persoalan.html

Bahagian 2

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2017/10/menjawab-kemungkaran-dan-persoalan_14.html

4. Penghinaan Terhadap Agama Hindu Oleh Firdaus Wong dan Ahmad Iqram

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2018/07/analisa-post-post-firdaus-wong-dan.html?m=1

5. Surat Terbuka Umum.
Kepada,
Para Muslim yang Mukmin.
Pihak- Pihak yang berkenaan.
Firdaus Wong Wai Hung Official Menghina Agama Hindu.

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2018/02/surat-terbuka-umum.html

6.Anda Biadap kerana Menghina Agama. #1.1
January 16, 2019
Fakir Ilmu,MRM dll

http://cintaimalaysiaku.blogspot.com/2019/01/anda-biadap-menghina-agama.html

7.Anda Biadab kerana Menghina Agama #1.3
January 18, 2019
Ahmad Iqram Mohamad Noor

http://cintaimalaysiaku.blogspot.com/2019/01/anda-biadab-kerana-menghina-agama-1.html

Menyahut Cabaran Firdaus Wong Wai Hung.

Menyahut Cabaran Firdaus Wong Wai Hung.

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Saya terbaca Cabaran Firdaus yang bertarikh 10 April 2016 baru-baru ini.

Firdaus Wong Wai Hung telah mencabar untuk mengkaji kitab Hindu. Setelah kaji, Saya dapati kitab Hindu telah disalah tafsir oleh Zakir dan Firdaus.  Maka sebagai menyahut cabaran Firdaus, saya mencabar balik untuk membuktikan kesahihan beliau memahami kitab Hindu.

Bukti Firdaus Mencabar.

“Saya dengan rendah diri juga ingin menyeru para sahabat penganut Hindu untuk mengkaji apakah yang disebut oleh para sami…”

‘Jom kita sama-sama double check apakah ajaran Sami Hindu ataupun Ustaz Islam selari dengan ajaran dalam kitab agama masing-masing... Kalau tak sama, jom tolak.. Ada berani?’

Adakah Firdaus mempunyai kredibiliti dan maruah sebagai seorang yang berpegang kepada kata-katanya.

Sivasiddhi

7 April 2019

……….

Teks daripada Fb Firdaus

[Terima Kasih Hindraf]

10 April 2016.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=862298623881125&id=285669801544013

Saya secara peribadi berterima kasih kepada Hindraf dan beberapa NGO Hindu yang meminta Muslim mengkaji sama ada apa yang diajar oleh Dr. Zakir Naik selari dengan ajaran Islam atau tidak. Apa yang diminta mereka itu sebenarnya ada dalil dari Islam yang memerintahkan umat Islam melihat kepada bukti yang dibawa bukan melihat kepada siapa yang membawa.

Jikalau benar DZN membawa ajaran yang bercanggah dengan Islam, maka seharusnya kita tolak.

Saya dengan rendah diri juga ingin menyeru para sahabat penganut Hindu untuk mengkaji apakah yang disebut oleh para sami & presiden NGO Hindu lain serta amalan mereka selari dengan kitab Hindu atau tidak. Jikalau ianya tidak selari dengan kitab Hindu, harap sahabat semua tolak juga ajaran dan seruan mereka walaupun siapapun mereka. Mari kita lihat apa kitab Hindu sebut pasal Tuhan & adalah anda menyembah Tuhan yang disebut dalam kitab Hindu.

'Tuhan itu Satu. Tiada dua.'
(Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1)

'Tuhan itu tiada ibubapa'
(Svetasavtara Upanishad 6:9)

'Tuhan itu tiada 'Pratima' (imej, ukiran, berhala, gambar dan lukisan)'
(Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:19)

'Mereka yang intekletual mereka dicuri oleh kemahuan nafsu material menyembah berhala dan Tuhan palsu'
(Baghavad Ghita 7:20)

'Mereka yang menyembah alam semulajadi jatuh ke dalam kegelapan, barangsiapa yang menyembah apa yang diciptakan dengan tangan manusia jatuh lebih dalam ke dalam kegelapan.'
(Yajurveda 40:9)

Jom kita sama-sama double check apakah ajaran Sami Hindu ataupun Ustaz Islam selari dengan ajaran dalam kitab agama masing-masing... Kalau tak sama, jom tolak.. Ada berani?

……..

Screenshot  dr Fb. Firdaus

Tafsiran Sebenar Yang Orang Hindu Amalkan. Kitab Yajur Veda.(Y.40.9)

Tafsiran Sebenar Yang Orang Hindu Amalkan.
Kitab Yajur Veda.(Y.40.9)

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Segelintir manusia  yang tidak arif mengenai agama Hindu cuba untuk tafsirkan maksud sendiri. Petik ayat di luar konteks (out of context) , disalah tafsir dan di manipulasi berdasarkan kefahaman sendiri dan cuba menasihati orang Hindu. Hanya memaparkan sebahagian ayat Y.40.9 sahaja, tidak memaparkan ayat Y.40.10 dan Y.40.11

Ayat suci Kitab Hindu Yajurveda 40.9 yang dipaparkan oleh golongan yang tidak arif.(Zakir dan kuncu-kuncunya seperti Firdaus Wong)

“अन्धं तमः प्रविशन्ति ये‌‍‌ऽसंभुतिमउपासते”
“andham tamah pravishanti ye asambhutim upasate “

Ditafsirkan salah.
“ Mereka masuk dalam kegelapan, yang menyembah elemen alam  (asambhuti) seperti  udara,air,api dsb.
Mereka masuk ke kegelapan yang lebih dalam,yang menyembah benda ciptaan (sambhuti) seperti gambar,kerusi,... patung.”

Mereka cuba membuktikan bahawa menyembah Tuhan dalam bentuk imej ialah salah.

Sloka Lengkap yang Sebenar.

Yajurveda 40.9
अन्धं तमः प्रविशन्ति ये‌‍‌ऽसंभुतिमउपासते
ततो भूय इव ते तमो य उ सम्भुत्याम्रताः
andham tamah pravishanti yeasambhutimupasate
tato bhuya ive te tamo ya u sambhutyamratah.

Mereka masuk dalam kegelapan, yang menyembah  dalam bentuk tanpa imej  (asambhuti) SAHAJA.
Mereka masuk ke kegelapan yang lebih dalam,yang menyembah  dalam bentuk imej (sambhuti) SAHAJA”

Yajur 40.10

अन्य देवाहुः सम्भवादन्यदाहुरसम्भावात् |
इति शुश्रुम धीराणां ये नस्तद्विचचक्षिरे ||

Sembah Tuhan dalam bentuk tiada imej (asambhuti)   dan sembah Tuhan dalam bentuk berimej (sambhuti) dapat hasil yang berbeza

Yajur 40.11

संभूतिं  च विनाशं च यस्त द्वेदोभय सह |
विनाशेन मृत्युं तीर्त्वा संभूत्यामृतमश्नुते |

“ Dan HANYA mereka yang  mempercayai kedua - dua bentuk  Tuhan ,tiada imej dan berimej ialah penganut yang sebenar, akan sampai ke pangkuanNya.”

Tafsiran Sebenar.

Mantra itu sebenarnya menyatakan Tuhan dalam bentuk tiada imej  (asambhuti/ formless/arupam) dan berimej (sambhuti/form/rupam).Jangan sembah sambhuti atau asambhuti  sahaja berasingan dengan menolak salah satu . Hasil menyembah Tuhan dalam bentuk asambhuti berbeza dengan sembah dalam bentuk  sambhuti. Jadi sembah Tuhan dalam kedua - dua bentuk sambhuti dan asambhuti. Keimanan sebenar ialah mempercayai Tuhan mahaberkuasa, Tuhan yang tidak berupa mampu dan boleh mengambil sebarang rupa atau bentuk. Orang yang hanya PERCAYAI salah satu bentuk sambhuti atau asambhuti SAHAJA sebenarnya dalam kegelapan. Orang percayai Tuhan Mahaberkuasa, mampu dan boleh dalam bentuk sambhuti dan asambhuti akan sampai kepangkuannya, Syurga.

Pentafsiran diatas berdasarkan sumber tafsiran Akhila P., Arya Samaj, Devi Chand, Griffith dan Jagatguru Adi Shankara.

Oleh hal demikian, orang Hindu tidak menyimpang ajaran Veda. Orang Hindu percaya Tuhan yang Mahakuasa boleh mengambil sebarang bentuk atau imej  pada bila- bila masa atau tempat.

Harap Zakir dan kuncunya yang tidak arif dapat pencerahan dan tidak menyibuk dan menceroboh ke dalam agama Hindu. Kekal di jalan yang diberikanNya,jangan sesat. Tuhan merestui anda.

Diringkaskan oleh Sri Sivasiddhi.
Disahkan oleh Swami Brahmananda.Dhyana Ashram, Kulim, Kedah.
(Presiden  Mahaasabhah)
9 Ogos 2017

Updated 12/04/2019Om Namah Shivaya.
Sivasiddhi Speaks
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(English translation)

The Real Interpretations That Hindus Follow. Yajur Veda (Y.40.9)

Some innocent children of God tries to interpret their own meaning about Hinduism. They just picked verses out of context, misinterpreted and manipulated according their own understanding  and further tries to advice Hindus. Only by quoted part of verse Y.40.9 and never revealed Y.40.10 dan Y.40.11

The sacred verse of  Yajur Veda 40.9 shown by the innocent children of God.

“अन्धं तमः प्रविशन्ति ये‌‍‌ऽसंभुतिमउपासते”
“andham tamah pravishanti ye asambhutim upasate “

Misinterpreted as,
“They enter darkness, those who worship the (asambhuti) natural elements  such as air, water, fire, etc.) “They sink deeper in further darkness, those who worship (sambhuti) created things such as ..picture,chair, ….idol.

They are trying to prove that praying to God in murthy / idol form is wrong.

The Actual Complete Sloka.

Yajurveda 40.9
अन्धं तमः प्रविशन्ति ये‌‍‌ऽसंभुतिमउपासते
ततो भूय इव ते तमो य उ सम्भुत्याम्रताः

andham tamah pravishanti yeasambhutimupasate
tato bhuya ive te tamo ya u sambhutyamratah.

They enter darkness believe God in ONLY no image form (formless form/asambhuti,arupam) ,they are in the further darkness who believes ONLY in image form (sambhuti/rupam)

Yajur 40.10

अन्य देवाहुः सम्भवादन्यदाहुरसम्भावात् |
इति शुश्रुम धीराणां ये नस्तद्विचचक्षिरे ||

Praying to God in no image form (asambhuti)  and praying to God in image (sambhuti) has different effects.

Yajur 40.11

संभूतिं  च विनाशं च यस्त द्वेदोभय सह |
विनाशेन मृत्युं तीर्त्वा संभूत्यामृतमश्नुते |

AND ONLY those believe in both form and formless form of God is the real believer,will reach His abode."

Actual Interpretations

"The actual mantras mentioned that  God has no image (asambhuti/ formless/arupam) and has image (sambhuti/form/rupam).Don't worship sambhuti or asambhuti alone.The effects of sambhuti are different from the effects of asambhuti.So worship both sambhuti and asambhuti.

The above interpretations  is based to the source from Akhila P., Arya Samaj, Devi Chand, Griffith and Adi Shankara’s comments.

So Hindus are correct based to Vedas.Hindus believes the omnipotent God is able to take any form or image at any time or place. Hope the innocent children of God are enlightened and do not transgress and interfere into Hinduism. Remain in the given path ,do not go astray.God bless you.

Summarized by Sri Sivasiddhi.
Verified by Swami Brahmananda. Dhyana Ashram, Kulim,Kedah
(President of Mahaasabhah)
9 August 2017
Om Namah Shivaya.
Sivasiddhi Speaks

Aaseevagam: Atheistic Folly Cult. Part 4

Aaseevagam: Atheistic Folly Cult.

A Ploy to Deceive and Destroy Hinduism.

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Part 4

Main Agenda or Hidden Agenda?

Introduction

Aaseevagam is referring to Ajivikam.  It is a product by Makkhali Gosala about  460 BC (500-250 BC) from Uttar Pradesh, India. He is not a Tamil or from Tamil Nadu. He is an atheist. Died without any scriptures or real followers.

Ajivikas flourished during Bindusara (Maurya Empire). Asoka, son of Bindusara,  converted to Buddhism. Later, Asoka eliminated Ajivikas from Northern part of India, some of them escaped to Kannada and Tamil Nadu.

Main Agenda.

The main reason or agenda of the Aaseevaham propagation is political ambitions and religious motivated agendas BUT they camouflaging in / with Tamil language, race (jati) and Shaivite belief.

Main agenda is splitting Hindus, divert from Sanatana Dharma belief and pave ways / easy for convert into other religions.

Tamil Chintanaiyalar Peravai (TCP) is the main corrupt to change entire Hindu version scriptures in to new aasevagam version stories. The master of all lies.  They will coin any desired term in to fulfil their propaganda. Best to rename them as DUMIL KARPANAIYALAR PERAVAI. For example, the way the word ‘Temple’ is coined by the owner of the video is  just pick some similar sound phonetic and adjust to the the desired teem. It is similar to method Zakir naik and his gang coin words to describe, mistranslated, manipulate Hindu scriptures.

1.Political Ambitions of Aaseevaham.

a.  Create a  sentiment of hatred between Tamils and Telugus in Tamil Nadu.

Telugus were considered as their immigrant enemies.

b.  Break the Tamils' Unity.

Manipulation of jati sentiment,  bring up or highlight a small section of jati based community. The jati communities highly focused were from Paraiyar, Mallar, Kallar, Kuravar, Pallar (assumed Pandyan Kingdom founders) and etc. The communities were considered as the real Aaseevagar followers. But in reality, these are the communities which are  the most vulnerable for conversion by the foreign religious missionaries.

Even, they claim Shivaperuman and Murugaperuman assumed born from Paraiyar community. Only these  community of groups are considered as Tamils by the Aaseevagar propagandist. The other jati based communities such as Vellalar, Nayakar, Brahmin ( Tamils) and other Tamils  are considered NOT Tamil origins but as immigrants at different times in Tamil Nadu. Telugus were considered as their immigrant enemies. Hinduism are considered as religious enemy, but Christianity and Islamism are not defined or condemn, further praised for their teachings.

c.  Seeman (Simon Sebastian)  Manipulates Tamils.

This is the reason, Seeman or  Sebastian Simon, either he is a Christian or an atheist  claiming that Murugaperuman as his muppatan (ancestral worship) and pretends as a Shaiva believer.

Seeman is pretending to be a Shaivite to gain political support from the Tamils in Tamil Nadu.  He uses Tamil sentiment to succeed his political agenda.

2.Religious Motivated Agendas

Trying hard to prove that Tamils were not Hindus. They claim Tamils were originally aaseevagar followers and associated with Siddhas as their guides.

a.   Rejecting Divinity and Reduced  to Human.

They claim  Murugaperuman and  Shivaperuman are their ancestors (muppatan), the Gods

referred as   Tamil men from Parayar community. They NEVER  mentioned Shivan and Murugan as Paramatman / God / Arumperum Jothy and etc. In fact, they claim that all the Hindu Gods and Goddesses  were ordinary human from these Tamil community.

They claim  Shivan and Murugan are Aaseevaham theorists, created the Tamil religion called  Aaseevaham and brought the ‘real’ teaching of Shaivite. Shiva and Murugan are considered as Aaseevaga Sidhars ( human), later people started pray them as God because of Hinduism. Based to this, they are rejecting Hindu divinity from First Sangam, Second Sangam,  and Third Sangam ( Bhakti Movement).

b.   Rejecting all Hindu scriptures.

Aaseevaham rejects all Hindu scriptures and teachings.

Denying all Hindu scriptures Vedas, Puranas, Mahabharata etc., assumed as ‘cooked up' stories. TCP Created ( designed, fabricated, manipulated, etc.) their own version of Aaseevagam doctrines.

i.Claims Ramayana is corrupted from Tamil Nadu stories. Ravana portrayed as hero and Rama as villain.

ii. Claims Murugan and Shivan were from paraiyar community became  aaseevaham siddhas. Aaseevaham claimed that they are not God. Ordinary men later Hindus pray them as God. This the exact propaganda used by Missionaries and Mullahs to convert Hindus. They further try to prove that Shiva is a Muslim prophet Adam and Muruga is al Kithir a Muslim prophet.

iii. Claims Brahmins and Parasurama are Jews, came to Kerala. Brahmins hijacked the Tamil religion.  Try to relate to Muslim agenda of anti Jews.

iv.Claims Thiruvalluvar is a  Jain not Hindu. Iyothee Thass claim that in his book Indra Desa History.

Similar claims by Missionaries. The Christians claim Thiruvalluvar is a Christian and Thirukural is the teaching of Bible. G U Pope  imaginated a new story. Somewhere in Mylapore, Madras. Elala Singam a merchant from Sri Lanka gave Bible to Valluvar in sea shore, meet daily. Then only Valluvar wrote Thirukural based to Biblical teaching. Dr Nagaswamy rejected, It is  blatant lie, because panca mahayagna ( brahmanas/ pooja ) mentioned in Thirukural, did the word came from biblical teaching?

Another version story that, St Thomas taught Valuvar to write Thirukural. But  no book in western mentioned St Thomas came to India. Only mentioned about St Thomas went to east ( Syria) not India. (Myth). No archeological evidence. Even Pope declared that St. Thomas never reached India.

v. Claims original Mahabharata of Vyasa (was denied) and corrupted with Tamil Nadu story. TCP claims the actual story is  about Kuravar (Kauravas) from Kerala mountains fight Pandya (Pandavas) (agriculturist) in Tamil Nadu, Tirunelveli, Thamirabarani river.

vi. Claims Vedas were copied from Buddhism in Tamil Nadu, which related to  Sindhu Valley. Claims Vedas were completed by Persian, by Drasko to become Zen Avesta and later became Vedas.

vii. Trying to prove that Vaishnavism is aaseevaham . Krishna is Kananahar from herd tribe in Tamil Nadu.

viii.  Rejected the 4 Varnas of Hinduism but claimed 6 Varnam in aasevagam.

ix.  Claims Hinduism was from Buddhism. Iyothee Thass, the anti Hinduism is the real culprit who claims  Hinduism was from Buddhism. Work with Christian Missionary, Colonel Alcott. Wrote in book titled Indera Desa Sarithiram.  

x.  Kali yugam is mentioned as King Kaliyan as Tamil thantai.

c. Trying to prove Tamils are Jain and Buddhist not Hindus. But history proves that Shaivite and Vaishnavite  (Hinduism) were practiced there earlier and Ajivikas, Jains and Buddhists existed later part. ( during Kalabras). Then Hinduism continue flourished.

List of People involved in the propaganda of Aaasevagam.

In India (Tamil Nadu)

1. Seeman (Simon Sebastian)

2. Paarisalan

3. Orissa Balu ( marine researcher)

4. Healer Baskar

5. Prof.K.Nedunchezhiyan ( follower of E. V.  Ramasamy, an atheist, Support conversion out from Hinduism.)

6.  Sakhubai ( wife of Prof.K.Nedunchezhiyan Malayalee???)

7.  Dr R. Mathivanan

8. VCK Iyothee Thasar. (Katavarayan)  Buddhist.

9. Senthil Mallar ( propagandist, his father  Asirvatham??? Wrote on aaseevagam. )

10. Segar, cinema actor

11.Jegath Gaspar Raj M, (Using Tamil language, Arul thanthai church father.

Father. Maria Paulian E,

Mother. Maria Puspham G)

12. Anand Amartdass

13. Prof Chitra Balasubramaniam.

14.  Sivapragasam

15. S N Kanthasamy.

16.  N.Vijayalakshmi, (Tamilagathil Aaseevaham.)

17. Some one called Aaseevagam Sittar Adi Shankar ( not sure ???), ,

18.Tamil Chintanaiyalar Peravai. (TCP)

(Many more haven't traced yet)

In Malaysia (Support in the name of language)

1.  Tamil Pughal, Tamilar Kalam

2.  Kalai Mughilan ,Naam Tamilar Malaysia

3.  Tamil Mani , Malaysia Tamilar Tanmana Eyakam

4.   Many more . Claim their self as Hindu by geographically, Hindu by culturally,  atheists, agnostics, Krypto Hindus etc.

Conclusion.

Hindus in general, please be alert on what is this Aaseevagam cult is propagating. Unfortunately, some Tamils (Shaivite Hindu) don't see the underlying plot of Seeman and supporting him, such as Naam Tamilar Group,( Tamil Religion Group, etc.) especially in Malaysia.  This group is an ardent supporter of Seeman, It is nothing wrong to support your own race or ethnic, but be aware! Aaseevagam cult probably orchestrating an agenda for some religious converting agents or anti Hindu religion movements.

Having problems of terminology phobia related Hinduism only.  They are phobic on words such as Brahmin, Hindu, Hinduism, Arya, India, Hindustan, Sanatana Dharma, Hindutva ( Hindu tatva / Hindu dharma) , Sanskrit or anything relating Hinduism including Shaiva Bhakti Movements ( Aaseevagars rejecting Thiru Nyana Sambanthar ). They appreciates other religions except Hinduism. They can accept Tamil Ulamas and Tamil Pastors as Tamilan but not Tamil Brahmins, the fact is all of them are doing same nature of job as per their belief system.

Their modus operandi is to break the unity among Indians and Hindus. By destroying unity among Indians and Hindus,  they can easily impose their agenda.

We aware there agendas such as Joshua project by Christian Missionaries aim to convert India to Christian nation. John Samuel and Seeman claimed Murugan as the ancestor of Tamils.

1990s, John Samuel started using the Institute of Asian Studies in Chennai to push the same agenda in the academic domain. John Samuel conducted international conferences on Murugan. Where papers were presented claiming that Murugan is not a Hindu god but the tribal ancestor of the Tamil people.

In 2001, John Samuel openly stated that Soma-Skanda, a famous form of Murugan worship throughout Tamil Nadu, was actually the representation of the Christian Trinity.

The Muslim Isis minded groups have ambition of e ghazwa al Hindi, a long term ambition to convert India in to a Muslim nation.

Aaseevaham is an anti Hinduism cult, full of lies, slanders and blasphemy against Hindu scriptures and God. They try to brainwash/project Hindu mind to reject our own religion.

Om Namasivaya

Sri Sivasiddhi.

Adviser : Anmiga Sagotharar

Sivasiddhi Spiritual Foundation Malaysia.

22 March  2019

Part 1

Dear Muruga Bhaktas.
Clear the Doubts. Hindu VS Tamilam.(Aasevagam)

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2018/07/aaseevagam-folly-cult_13.html

Part 2

Aaseevagam: Atheistic  Folly Cult.
A Ploy to Deceive and Destroy Hinduism

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2018/07/aaseevagam-folly-cult.html

Part 3

A Brief Explanation About Aaseevaham Cult.

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2018/07/aaseevagam-atheistic-folly-cult-part-3.html

Reference.

1.Shocking truth (Lies)  about Mahabharata. Part 1

Tamil Religion  version of ‘Mahabharata ‘

https://youtu.be/vE1GzqKLX18

It supposed to be shocking lies about Mahabharata.

2. Prof. R. Nagaswamy, How Thirukural distorted by Missionaries

https://youtu.be/N3D9_F83Gus

3. Hinduism predates jain,Buddhist in Tamil nadu

https://www.sanskritimagazine.com/india/hinduism-jainism-and-buddhism-in-early-tamil-history/

4.Temple history.

the method name of word coined same as Zakir coin terms

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=172036580132520&id=100019785378801

The way the word Temple is coined by the owner of the video is  similar to method Zakir naik and his gang coin words to describe, mistranslated, manipulate  Hindu scriptures.

5.Prof.K.Nedunchezhiyan. Read Lokayata to coin Aaseevaham. Part 1

https://youtu.be/LhdwtQMmtM0

6.  Prof.K.Nedunchezhiyan,

Atheism is aaseevaham, Jain copied poorananooru. Creator has no ethics. Part 2

https://youtu.be/cvFrDL_i_7w

7.  Prof.K.Nedunchezhiyan. Aaseevaham against Vedas, against Thirunavukarasar … part 3

https://youtu.be/bI8D2fxBFYA

8.  Prof. Chitra Balasubramaniam.

Aiyanar is Makkali, no God ,Vainava is aaseevaham, atom contradict to fate vidhi, belief rebirth, Got 6 varnam

https://youtu.be/-df0EM1U284

9. Prof.K.Nedunchezhiyan. Support conversion out from Hinduism., kali of kaliyugam is king kaliyan, thantai evp.

https://youtu.be/YXKNXYOVApc

10. Iyothee Thass, Bring the idea of aasevagam, study in alcot missionary, father cook for European. (Aloysius collected the work of lyothee Thass)

Work with Ev Ramasamy, claims Buddhism ,vedic copied fr Buddhism, Hinduism fr sindhu…

https://youtu.be/EKvkB4ybIkc

11. John Samuel ,

Murugan worship throughout Tamil Nadu, was actually the representation of the Christian Trinity.

https://swarajyamag.com/videos/watch-in-tamil-nadu-breaking-india-forces-lay-siege-on-murugan

12.e ghazwa Al hind

https://youtu.be/tUqNNMhsYdo

Conquest of India by Muslim.

13.Christianity and the Challenge of Hinduism.

https://youtu.be/T9zxK-FPnkI

Conquest of India by Christian.

14. Sivan as sittar not God

https://youtu.be/UF7AVTrBqk4

15. Iyothee Thass,  

The culprit claims  Hinduism from Buddhism.

https://youtu.be/EKvkB4ybIkc

16.Jegath Gaspar Raj M,Arul

http://www.kuzhithuraidiocese.com/diocesepriest.php?id=1037