Saiva Siddhantam Version of Darmalingam: Tamil Samayam/Tamil Religion

Saiva Siddhanta Version of N.Darmalingam: Tamil Samayam/Tamil Religion 

Dear Aiya Darmalingam, please verify these and do not hesitate to correct them in case wrong.

After quite a long discussion/comments, the findings from 2 of your students named Kokila Dharmaraj and Vannan Sara, and also referred to Saiva Pettagam Channel videos. I am able/forced to come up with certain conclusions/assumptions.

You Propagates 'Tamil Samayam' Not Saiva Samayam.

The name of your version of 'Saiva Samayam'/ 'Saiva Siddhatam' is called Tamil Samayam. I got no issue with your choice or way of belief. Just need to code down (Neri paduthal) your actual belief system so that Hindus in general especially Hindu Saivars not confused.

Your teaching through your classes in Malaysia Saiva Narpani Kalagam (MSNK) and Youtube channel called Saiva Pettagam is probably based on the below.

So can we conclude that,

1. Regarding the talk. (Remember, You still owe me an answer)

What Aiya Dharmalingam said in the program of Dharma Broadcasting on 19 September 2021, ('they' are saying that Tamils are not eligible to pray or learn about God) based on your own conclusion based on findings from 'Saiva Siddhantam'. It is your OWN KARUTHU/OPINION/ASSUMPTION, there is no evidence of any scripture or any other individual said so. Probably you buy the opinion of Saktivel Muruganar of Tamil Nadu, India. He slanders on Vedas. He openly said, " Vedas got sloka to kill Tamils" and/or derived from misunderstood Varnasarama from anti-Hindu interpretation version of Manusmriti (by Amma Nirmala Devi on Manusmriti video)

2. Your version of 'Saiva Samayam' is alien to original versions of Saiva Siddhantham or Sanatana Dharma, which is your own cult/separate version which you prefer to call Tamil Samayam. 'Reduced' down to Tamils only. (You are trying to reduce/confine (sirumai padututhel) Sivaperuman into a language of race/ethnicity, this sounds like/a similar strategy used by the anti-Hindu/ Karrupar Kootham/ Seeman and fanboys in Tamil Nadu, India. These groups claiming Murugan as muppattan. (ancestor)(reduce Sivaperuman the Paramporul to human). I wonder if you forgot that Sivan is for all humans without border, language, race/ethnicity, and time.

3. You accepted /adjusted and used these as the main reference as Tamil Samayam/ Tamil Religion.

a. All the 12 Tirumurais of original versions which the Nalvars and 63 Nayanmars endorsed and you use an adjusted/modified version with certain terms to suit your teachings.

b. Meykandar's Sivanyana Botham of course with an adjusted version (probably)

4 You rejected

a. Vedas, the original 4 Vedas ( Rigveda, Yajurveda, Samaveda, and Atharvaveda) but claims have your own version of Tamil Vedham (which doesn't exist)  assumed to be that the 4 Purusharthas of Hinduism namely Aram/Dharma, Porul /Artha, Inbam/Kama, and Veedu /Moksha (of course with modifications) as your new-found Tamil Veda. (don't have any scriptural or Nalvars verbal proofs)

b. Siva Agamas, the original not accepted fully, and definitely anything involved Sanskrit or mantras not accepted. Thus 28 Saiva Agamas are not fully accepted. etc

5. Assuming the 4 Nalvars rejected Sanskrit, Vedas, Brahmins, and assuming Nalvars only used Tamil, not Sanskrit according to your teachings based on comments from your students. Can you show me the proof from any of 12 Tirumurai or Meykandar's Shastram for such claims?

6. You only believe in one God. Siva is the only God. No issue. Maybe Murugan accepted but through the Saiva Pettagam channel your student/daughter claimed Siva doesn't have a family. Siva is Omnipotent, all-powerful, he is in everything/everyone. He manifests as Murugan as you said in the program. Your students never answered me when I asked whether the Paramporul, Siva Peruman manifested as Brahma and Vishnu? Don't forget the tattva of Egan Anegan of Sivaperuman.

7. Your source of referential (so far traced) is for your

a. Tamil Samayam probably,

i. Saktivel Muruganar as main referential. (openly declared himself as a non-Hindu, a Tamil Samayam propagator),

ii. R.N. Senniyapanar ( a Tamil puritanist) promoted Aram, Porul, Inbam, and Vedu as Tamil Veda through his writings in 'Saiva Siddhanta' blog.

b. To condemn Hinduism your reference probably

i. E.V. Ramasamy Naiker an atheist/anti-Hindu, one who said Tamil language and its culture as Kathumirandi and those beliefs God is stupid.

ii. B.R. Ambedkar a non-Hindu. One who burned books, no intellectual will ever burn books. (based on a video on Manusmriti by MSNK VP/wife)

8. Other issues claimed by your daughter. (Which Nayanmar/s endorsed all these?)

a. Yagna/ Velvi is rejected, demeaned by assuming as a campfire.

b. Divali/Deepavali is not for your version of Saivars. Probably you digested E.V. Ramasamy's false narrative on Deepavali.

c. No rtu/titthu as for version. Your daughter suggesting women can go to temples to pray, etc. But in Purananuru of Ettutokai, mentioned women folk prayed Murugan from the outside a temple. And in many other scriptures.

d. Kula Deivam, deity/entity actually murdered souls claimed in the video. This is an insult to the Saktas.

No Conclusion Yet.

I am still learning and studying about your teachings.

Please correct me if I am wrong or anything is left out. We can make the world a better place to live.

Remember. In Hinduism, the Guru is responsible to carry the burden of bad karma if giving wrong guidance to his followers. The bad karma sack (pava moothai) you had to carry on your own. Sivan within you is always watching. Sivan gave Vedas, Sivan gave Agamas, Sivan gave Tirumurais, who are you/me to deny any part of Him?

Great Sayings.

1. Kavinyar Kanadasan, " Tamilan Hindu illei endru solraven orru paitiyakaran".

2. Dharmapura Adheenam.

'Nan onum naiyandi enthum pannele,  Inthe post padhica Sille perruku surr endru kobam varum'.

Apadhi  vanthal, manikavum. Anbe Sivam.

I believe this is not my question/opinion alone. This is the entire Hindus of Sanatana Dharmis'  or Hindu Saivars' view, whether individuals or organizations in Malaysia especially. (In case anyone/ Hindu Ngo disagrees, please do not hesitate to contact me, so that can list it out.)

Om Namasivaya.

Sivasiddhi. 

Sivasiddhi Spiritual Foundation 

30 September 2021 

PS.

1. Saw his program on Facebook on 19 September towards the end. Watched the recorded version the next day. To question him,

a. The first video posted on Facebook as a question Aiya Dharmalingam on 21 September 2021

https://youtu.be/ZR55dtOYCHw He never answered.

b. Second video posted on Facebook questioning the same on 29 September 2021.

https://youtu.be/nr1ieT35jEw. He never answered.

c. Third video posted on Facebook questioning regarding Tamil Veda on 30 September 2021

https://youtu.be/uphWCGNQOzg He never answered.

Aiya Darmalingam removed me from his Facebook friend list. 1/10/2021.

2. Will update whenever found new information.

3. The article above is solely about Dharmalingam and MSNK (Not about the listed members below)

4. Some members from the public asked me, why never contacted him and settle the issue in private?

I used to call him and settle any dispute by phone a few times, but in the end, he will stand firm with

his view by saying, "Saiva Siddhanta said so". For example in February 2015, regarding the

Kavadi dance, trance issue. And I had met in-person on Hindu archagars issue in July 2018 at Sungai

Besi Airport Sivan Temple at Archagars meeting. And I am aware of his belief and teaching of his

version to his students in private, I got no issue but the program on 19 September in public.

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List of Tamil Samayam Members/Propagators in Malaysia.

Tamil Samayam Maanadu 2021 ( 26 September 2021-...Online)

(Ps. In case any of the listed members below is wrongly attached please let me know

in the comment box, so that will be amended, Thank You)

Published in Tamil Malar 2 October 2021

1.Ulaga Tamil Pathukappu Seilagam. 

2.Ipoh Valalar Anbu Nilayam. 

3.Tamil Nadu Kovai Perur Adheenam. *

4.Tamil Desiya Periyakkam

5.Deiva Tamil Peravai

6.Malaysia Sittar Sivayoga Ashramam

7.Tamil Valviyal Iyakkam 

8.Malaysia Tamiliyal Aiyuvu Kalagam

9.Malaysia Saiva Narpani Kalagam

10 Malaysia Tamil Desiya Peravai 

11.Kuala Lumpur Ilakkiye Kalagam

12.Kampar Tamilar Vilipunarvu Kalagam 

13.Tamil Valarchi Kalagam 

14. Malaysia Naam Tamilar Iyakkam 

15.Malaysia Pathiye Tamil Thalaimurai Iyakkam 

16.Malaysia Thanga Tamilar 

17. Malaysia Tamilar Eluchi Iyakkam 

18.Tamilar Panpadu Iyakkam 

19.Tamilar Otrumai Iyakkam 

20. Manavar Vasantham

21.Mahatma Gandhi Kalachalai Munnal Manavar Sangam. 

22. Etc. many more

Edited 18/09/23

Tamil Samayam Propagator.

Tamil Nadu...

1.P Maniarasan

2.Saktivel Muruganar

3. Imaiyon

4. Kalaiarasi Nadarajan.

5. ...

Malaysia.

1.Tamil Samaya Peravai

2. N Dharmalingam.

3. Elanjothi Devaraju

4. ...

Reference.

1.Saktivel Muruganar , Vedas (Hinduism) got sloka to kill Tamils but supports Jesus (Christian).

https://youtu.be/OJ07pBn5kLs

2. Tamil Vedhas are Purusharthas? (A baseless claim)

.http://www.saivasiddhanta.in/veda.php

3. Aaseevagam: Atheistic Folly Cult., A Ploy to Deceive and Destroy Hinduism.

STOP THE FOLLY CULT.

Part 1: Dear Muruga Bhaktas.

Clear the Doubts. Hindu VS Tamilam.

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2018/07/aaseevagam-folly-cult_13.html

Part 2: Aaseevagam: Atheistic  Folly Cult.

A Ploy to Deceive and Destroy Hinduism

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2018/07/aaseevagam-folly-cult.html

Part 3: A Brief Explanation About Aaseevaham Cult.

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2018/07/aaseevagam-atheistic-folly-cult-part-3.html

Part 4: Main Agenda or Hidden Agenda?

http://sivasiddhi.blogspot.com/2019/03/aaseevagam-atheistic-folly-cult-part-4.html

Just a few screenshots...

1. Your student claimed you all only refer Tirumurai and Meykandar sastram.

2. Your student said, it is your KARUTHU...based on your findings.

3. Your student said, Nalvar never supported Sanskrit.

4. I posted this twice in the comment box, your students never give an opinion/rejected these.

5. Your student said, Nalvar never supported Sanatana Dharma.

6. Your student never answer this.

7. Saiva Sidhanta by R.N. Seniapar ( A staunch Tamil Puritan). The idea of Tamil Veda referred to the 4 Purusharthas not the Original 4 Vedas.

8. Published in Tamil Malar

2 October 2021